Russia paid Taliban bounties for American troops in Afghanistan

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  1. exGOPer

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  2. Cuddles

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    #72     Jul 1, 2020
  3. Cuddles

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    and the hits keep on coming:

    https://www.businessinsider.com/rus...-american-soldiers-taliban-sources-say-2020-7

    Russia did pay extremists to attack US soldiers in Afghanistan, according to 3 separate Taliban sources

    • Sources in the Taliban — two current commanders and one former — have confirmed to Insider that Russia pays extremists in Afghanistan to attack US soldiers.
    • The practice was first reported by The New York Times, which cited US intelligence. President Donald Trump has sought to deny that the practice exists.
    • The Taliban sources were clear that this took place and said Iran and Pakistan do it too.
    • They emphasized that only fringe elements of the Taliban take part and said they did not support taking money from foreign powers in this way.
    • One said: "These are criminal groups that work alongside the Mujahideen and give us a bad reputation." Another said the practice was a necessary evil.
    Taliban commanders have confirmed that Russia has offered financial and material support to its members in exchange for attacking US forces in Afghanistan.

    The practice was first reported on Friday by The New York Times, which cited US intelligence officials.

    President Donald Trump has since strongly denied that he was told of this intelligence and attacked its credibility, characterizing the existence of Russian bounty payments as fake.

    But three separate Taliban sources told Insider they were aware of Russian bounty payments being made — though they said only the less-disciplined elements on the fringes of the group would take up such an offer.

    When reached through formal channels, officials with the Taliban — formally called the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan — declined to comment.

    But the three sources all confirmed the practice takes place and that Russian intelligence officials are known to pay. Iran and Pakistan also fund these activities, the sources said.

    Two of the sources are actively involved with the Taliban, and one is now a refugee in Greece who entered the country in 2016. All said they personally had not undertaken Russian bounty operations and disparaged the practice in general.

    A well-known way to get money
    The refugee spoke on condition of anonymity to Insider for fear of retaliation, though his identity is known to Insider. He used to be a commander with the Taliban in the Logar province of Afghanistan.

    He said: "The Taliban is like my fist — the center of the fist is hard and disciplined; everyone gets salaries and weapons from the Quetta Shura and they obey orders."

    The Quetta Shura is the leadership council of the Taliban that is thought to be based in Pakistan.

    "But around this fist there are a lot of groups and commanders that are with the Taliban but not controlled by the Taliban," he added. "These are the people who will do anything for money, and Russia, Iran, Pakistan, and other countries will hire them for operations."

    He said he was never offered money by Russian intelligence, which he said worked in a different part of Afghanistan where there were historic links from the days of the Soviet Union.

    But he said he was regularly approached by Iran and the specially designated terrorist organization run by the Haqqani family out of northern Pakistan. He said it was well-known that groups in need of money could work with Russians.

    But he was skeptical that accepting such payments would advance the Taliban's cause in the long term. "These people will not just leave," he said. "They did not spend the money because we are friends. They spent it to kill their American enemies."

    'They give us a bad reputation'
    Moulani Baghdadi, a current Taliban commander from Ghazni province, provided Insider a statement via a family member.

    He said Russian influence inside the Taliban itself was impossible but that there were many affiliated groups that have maintained ties with Russia.

    "In the last five years the Islamic Emirate has greatly expanded in Kunduz and Mazar because individual commanders have been receiving money and weapons from Russian intelligence," he said. "These are criminal groups that work alongside the Mujahideen and give us a bad reputation with many people because they sell drugs and commit crimes and work with [foreigners]."

    Mujahideen is a broad term that Islamic extremists use to refer to one another.

    'After victory, we will make them stop'
    A third Taliban official discussed the situation with Insider via Facebook from Pakistan. The official, whom Insider reached via a trusted intermediary, did not give a name.

    When he was asked why fighters would do the bidding of foreign powers, he replied: "Money, everyone needs money."

    The official characterized such missions as a necessary evil, like the widespread opium trade in Afghanistan, which the Taliban objects to on religious grounds but tolerates.

    He said: "Opium is such an important crop to a poor country like Afghanistan, we cannot stop the farmers from growing because they need to eat — it's the same with some of these criminal groups.

    "We know they are committing crimes for now because they need to survive. But after victory, we will make them stop again like we did in the 1990s."

    An open secret in intelligence circles
    A NATO military intelligence official confirmed that the practice was well-known to Western powers as well.

    The official represents a nation with troops in Afghanistan and requested anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly.

    He said US intelligence briefed his agency on the issue last week and that Russian bounty operations were most common in northern Afghanistan.


    He said: "[The Germans] have a major presence in the north and this briefing was very much focused on the increased threat to these units by local groups paid by the Russians for attacks."

    Trump has continued to deny the existence of the practice. In a tweet on Wednesday, he said intelligence on Russia paying bounties was poorly corroborated and exaggerated by the media to damage him politically.

    The tweet said: "'No corroborating evidence to back reports.' Department of Defense. Do people still not understand that this is all a made up Fake News Media Hoax started to slander me & the Republican Party.

    "I was never briefed because any info that they may have had did not rise to that level."
     
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    #73     Jul 1, 2020
  4. exGOPer

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    #74     Jul 1, 2020
  5. Cuddles

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    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/01/politics/trump-intel-briefings-russia/index.html
    Trump's resistance led intel agencies to brief him less and less on Russia

    Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump's resistance to intelligence warnings about Russia led his national security team, including those who delivered the President's Daily Brief to brief him verbally less often on Russia-related threats to the US, multiple former Trump administration officials who briefed Trump, were present for briefings and who prepared documents for his intelligence briefings tell CNN.

    As the White House denies Trump was briefed about Russia placing bounties on US soldiers in Afghanistan, which CNN has confirmed was included in the written PDB this spring, the question of what the President knew and when has moved to center stage. And it brings Trump's aversion to hearing negative analysis about Russia into renewed focus.

    Multiple former administration officials I spoke to for my upcoming book, "The Madman Theory: Trump Takes on the World," which will be published August 11 by Harper Collins, paint a picture of a President often unwilling to hear bad news about Russia.

    According to one former senior intelligence official, the President's briefers had one simple rule with Trump: never lead with Russia.

    Early in his term, Trump's briefers discovered that when his oral briefing included intelligence related to Russia's malign activities against the United States, including evidence of its interference in US politics, Trump would often blow up at them, demanding to know why they kept focusing on Russia and often questioning the intelligence itself, multiple former administration officials said.

    "The President has created an environment that dissuades, if not prohibits, the mentioning of any intelligence that isn't favorable to Russia," a former senior member of Trump's national security staff told me.

    Russia material placed in written briefings that Trump often didn't read
    In response, his briefers -- who must make difficult judgment calls every day on which intelligence to highlight to the President -- reduced the amount of Russian-related intelligence they included in his oral briefings, instead often placing it only in his written briefing book, a document that is provided daily and sometimes extended to several dozen pages containing the intelligence community's most important information .

    But his briefers discovered over time that he often did not read the briefing book, leaving him unaware of crucial intelligence, including threats related to Russia and other parts of the world.

    When asked about CNN's reporting that Trump is resistant to intelligence warnings about Russia, Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe told CNN, "this is totally false" in a statement Tuesday. Ratcliffe took the job in May.

    National security adviser Robert O'Brien said Wednesday that the President was not briefed on the Russia bounty intelligence because it had not been corroborated.
    "The President was not briefed because at the time of these allegations they were uncorroborated," O'Brien said. "The President's career CIA briefer decided not to brief him because it was unverified intelligence ... and knowing all the facts I know, I certainly support her decision."

    He called it "ridiculous" that any information would be held back from the President over fears it would upset him. "We brief him on everything he needs to know to keep the country safe. So any thought that we wouldn't brief him on something because it would anger him, I don't even know how to respond to that question."

    The White House had not responded to a request for comment on this story as of Wednesday afternoon.
    Judging how to use the limited time of their oral briefings with the President was a difficult decision for senior US intelligence officials. One former senior intelligence official who served in the Trump administration explained that the agencies' job is to present the President with the broadest view of all the threats facing the United States. If the President was obsessed with just one threat, this official continued, he wouldn't listen to intelligence on other threats, in which case a key line of communication between the intelligence agencies and the commander in chief would be damaged or lost.
    They calculated it was best to reserve their limited chances to include such intelligence to the times when the threats were most severe.
    "Never casually go in on Russia, decide when it's differential," this former senior intelligence official said describing the intelligence community's approach to his oral briefings, "Save it for when it matters."

    White House was warned about potential Russian bounties for killing US troops in early 2019
    The end result was the President now heard less, not more, about the threat posed by one of the nation's most dangerous adversaries. Among his national security staff, this approach led to fears that the President was becoming less and less aware of the threat from Russia, even as the intelligence confirming the country's misbehavior mounted.

    "It creates a self-fulfilling prophecy where he hears less and less of what he doesn't want to hear and therefore starts to believe more and more that the Russians aren't doing anything bad," the former senior NSC official said, explaining that when Trump later claimed in public that he hadn't seen evidence of Russian aggression, he was sometimes telling the truth -- but the reason he hadn't seen it was that they hadn't shown it to him fearing it would provoke a negative reaction.

    Reluctance to hear intelligence
    The President's reluctance to hear intelligence about Russia fits into his growing disinterest in his intelligence briefings in general and may explain why the White House is currently denying that he was aware of intelligence about Russia offering the Taliban bounties to kill US soldiers -- even though former intelligence officials say that it's "inconceivable" that Trump would not have been briefed on the bounties, which the New York Times first reported Friday evening.
    Trump initially reacted to media reports of the bounty by tweeting on Sunday that "there have not been many attacks" on US troops as evidence that the reports may be "phony."
    On Monday, White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany repeatedly told reporters that the intelligence assessment on Russian bounties did not reach Trump's desk because there is "no consensus" among US spy agencies and because intelligence must be verified before it is presented to the President -- an assessment numerous former senior intelligence officials said was "absurd" and "ridiculous."
    Former Intelligence officials scoff at White House denials that Trump wasn't briefed on Russia bounty
    Former Intelligence officials scoff at White House denials that Trump wasn't briefed on Russia bounty
    It is "inconceivable," they said, that the President would not have been briefed on such critical intelligence that Russian actions were potentially putting US soldiers in harm's way.
    Asked whether there needs to be consensus within the intelligence community before present information to the President, former House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers told Jake Tapper on CNN's "The Lead," "no, not really."

    Referring to McEnany, he added, "by the way, when she says there is dissent across the intelligence community, this is more than some errant piece of intelligence that might come in or get thrown over the transom, either by an ally or some other collection, where there just wasn't enough to it. Clearly there was enough, there was lots of discussion, and oftentimes even where there is an affirmative agreement on what we think the intelligence says, there will be dissenting opinion and that dissenting opinion is normally heard, because you need that information to make a good decision."
    The White House attempts to insulate the President from criticism over the deeply sensitive issue of military deaths -- particularly less than five months before the election -- come as Carl Bernstein reports for CNN that the President shows extraordinary deference to the Russian leader in phone calls, obsequiously courting Putin's admiration and approval to the point that Trump sometimes "left top national security aides and his chiefs of staff flabbergasted."
     
    #75     Jul 2, 2020
  6. Cuddles

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    #76     Jul 2, 2020
  7. Cuddles

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    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow...ite-house-targets-leakers-not-russia-n1233049
    On alleged bounties, White House targets leakers, not Russia
    Confronted with intel about Russia putting a bounty on the heads of U.S. troops, the White House is taking action - by hunting for leakers.

    The Trump administration has opened an internal investigation to try to uncover who leaked intelligence about Russians paying the Taliban bounties to kill American soldiers. The administration maintains the story is overcooked and the leaks cherry-picked despite a steady stream of follow-ups from media outlets across the globe. The administration has interviewed people with access to the intelligence, and believes it has narrowed down the universe of suspects to fewer than 10 people.
     
    #77     Jul 7, 2020
  8. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Good ole Tina Rutnik.
     
    #78     Jul 7, 2020
  9. elderado

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    Well, he pretty much hates Trump and has said he's voting for Biden, so...

     
    #79     Jul 10, 2020
  10. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Majority of Americans say that
     
    #80     Jul 10, 2020