Rush Limbaugh, big fat ass freaking idiot...

Discussion in 'Politics' started by ZZZzzzzzzz, Oct 23, 2006.

  1. HUMORLESS DAVE RIPS O'REILLY

    October 27, 2006 -- ANY lingering doubts that David Letterman detests Bill O'Reilly will be laid to rest tonight, when the gap-toothed funnyman has the conservative Fox News powerhouse on his CBS "Late Show" and machine-guns him with insults.

    In a tape previewed by Page Six, things go downhill fast as O'Reilly sits down and jokingly presents the liberal-leaning host with a plastic sword to do battle and holds up a plastic shield to defend himself.

    An irritated Letterman cracks, "Oh, that's nice, that's cute, you come out with toys . . . Am I right about one thing: You guys over there at Fox and guys like Rush Limbaugh, you guys know it's all just a goof, right? You're just horsing around. You're doing it 'cause you know it'll be entertaining?" Letterman adds he's never seen O'Reilly's show because, "I dial up Fox and it's always 'The Simpsons.' "

    O'Reilly tries to lighten the mood by telling the audience he and Letterman are "on the same bowling league" and asks whether he'd appear on "Dancing With the Stars."

    "Bonehead!" snaps Letterman, who then starts shaking his fist and waving his arms at O'Reilly as the subject turns to the war in Iraq. "Let me ask you a question - was there more heinous, more dangerous violence taking place [before America invaded] Iraq, or is there more heinous, dangerous violence taking place now in Iraq?"

    "Oh, stop it," O'Reilly scolds the host. "Saddam Hussein slaughtered 300,000 to 400,000 people, all right, so knock it off . . . It isn't so black and white, Dave - it isn't, 'We're a bad country. Bush is an evil liar.' That's not true."

    "I didn't say he was an evil liar," Letterman shoots back. "You're putting words in my mouth, just the way you put artificial facts in your head!"

    Letterman admits he hasn't read O'Reilly's new book, "Culture War," because "I looked at it. I said, 'What is it, a book on sailing?' "

    Checking his watch to signal an end to the insult-a-thon, Letterman sarcastically quips, "Oh, gosh, where has the time gone?" He adds: "I have no idea what I'm talking about - but I don't think you do, either."


    http://www.nypost.com/php/pfriendly...com/seven/10272006/gossip/pagesix/pagesix.htm
     
    #131     Oct 27, 2006
  2. pattersb

    pattersb Guest

    Rush' comment were tasteless, and stupid.

    Even so, this is a desperate move by a desperate party. It's a bit unseemly for Micheal J Fox to be used as a political puppet. "Share my hope for cures" ... They tried the same thing with Reeves.

    Wedge Issues 101. Paint Republicans, and anyone who is leery of federally funding the mass production of embryos in labs, as fanatical meanies working to deny comfort to the suffering. There are no bans or laws against this research... They can't speak to the facts of embryonic stem-cell research, just the emotional plea from a dying man.

    Probably won't move many people, I get the sense people are generaly leery about this type science; cloning, etc ... especially since it's produced squat.

    God, I hate campaign season....
     
    #132     Oct 27, 2006
  3. For those of you who believe lying bitches like Davenport:


    Have human embryonic stem cells been used successfully to treat any human diseases yet?
    Scientists have only been able to do experiments with human embryonic stem cells (hESC) since 1998, when a group led by Dr. James Thomson at the University of Wisconsin developed a technique to isolate and grow the cells. Moreover, federal funds to support hESC research have only been available since August 9, 2001, when President Bush announced his decision on federal funding for hESC research. Because many academic researchers rely on federal funds to support their laboratories, they are just beginning to learn how to grow and use the cells. Thus, although hESC are thought to offer potential cures and therapies for many devastating diseases, research using them is still in its early stages.

    Adult stem cells such as blood-forming stem cells in bone marrow (called hematopoietic stem cells, or HSCs) are currently the only type of stem cell commonly used to treat human diseases. Doctors have been transferring HSCs in bone marrow transplants for over 40 years. More advanced techniques of collecting, or "harvesting", HSCs are now used in order to treat leukemia, lymphoma and several inherited blood disorders.

    The clinical potential of adult stem cells has also been demonstrated in the treatment of other human diseases that include diabetes and advanced kidney cancer. However, these newer uses have involved studies with a very limited number of patients.

    http://stemcells.nih.gov/StemCells/...fo/faqs.asp&NRCACHEHINT=NoModifyGuest#success
     
    #133     Oct 27, 2006
  4. pattersb

    pattersb Guest

    Given the research is still in its infancy, the following campaign-promise from Edwards was a little bit over-the-top?


    "If we do the work that we can do in this country, the work that we will do when John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve are going to walk, get up out of that wheelchair and walk again."


    A legitimate campaign promise, Or disgraceful demagoguery? (You'd think they'd learn from the first go around ...)


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A34167-2004Oct14.html
     
    #134     Oct 27, 2006
  5. Oh, please...How can people possibly be so ignorant?
    Scientists and advocacy groups view embryonic stem cell research as perhaps the best hope for finding cures for debilitating diseases like Alzheimer's and Parkinson's.
    http://archives.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/08/09/stem.cell.bush/index.html





    August 10, 2001
    Bush said there are about 60 existing stem cell lines in various research facilities -- cell lines that have already been derived from human embryos.

    The president stopped short of allowing federal funding for research using stem cells derived from frozen embryos, about 100,000 of which exist at fertility labs across the country.
    http://archives.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/08/09/stem.cell.bush/index.html




    September 25, 2006
    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush used his veto power Wednesday for the first time since taking office 5 1/2 years ago, saying that an embryonic stem-cell research bill "crossed a moral boundary."

    The bill, which the Senate passed Tuesday, 63-37, would have loosened the restrictions on federal funding for stem-cell research

    House Republican leaders tried Wednesday evening to override the veto, but that vote was 235 to 193, short of the necessary two-thirds majority.

    In August 2001, Bush announced that his administration would allow federal funding only for research on about 60 stem-cell lines that existed at the time. Researchers have since found that many of those lines are contaminated and unusable for research.

    Scientists say stem cells could be a renewable source of replacement cells and tissues to treat Parkinson's and Alzheimer's diseases, spinal cord injuries, diabetes, strokes, burns and more
    http://archives.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/08/09/stem.cell.bush/index.html
     
    #135     Oct 27, 2006
  6. Because they suffer from the neocon disease... :D
     
    #136     Oct 27, 2006


  7. I think I already conceded that Iraq has been a quagmire. I vote Republican, and my concern is financial not moral. I do disagree with it on principle, but that is not the driving force behind my decision. Of course, you don't have to believe me because I know you are more comfortable stereotyping all Republicans as the same. You need to believe that so your entire universe does not come crashing down.

    I love how you keep mentioning Davenport, but you are too much of a chicken shit to address the article I posted with regard to Dr. Peter Hollands. If you keep ignoring it, maybe it will go away, right? I doubt you are ever going to address it. Keep acting high and mighty though like you know the answers. You mention an overwhelming number of scientists support it. Where is your proof of that. You can guarantee that this is the case. Liberals sure like to say an overwhelming majority of scientists, but I doubt that they actually have any proof to back it up. They like to quote op ed writers who say these types of things without any hard evidence themselves.

    Finally, I too would like to ask JFK why the Democrat led House, Senate, and Presidency were throwing so much money into putting a man on the moon. Doesn't seem like that important of an advancement to me personally.
     
    #137     Oct 27, 2006
  8. Wow! Another articulate and stimulating post by you.

    Last four posts from Tradermaji in Politics & Religion:

    what do you expect from the figure head of klansmen... other than lies and deception?

    The policy pursued by the kleptocratic repugniklans has been a failure and it is time to clean house.

    Excellent response from an inbred.
    Again, that certification must be given out by your mama to anyone who is smarter than her kids.

    According to the neocons... yes. That would be as per their party guidelines. Just like the commies, they are cardholder party line regurgitators.

    Tradermaji, master of intelligent discourse.
     
    #138     Oct 27, 2006
  9. II vote Republican, and my concern is financial not moral.
    What does it have to do with you personally? Your party overwhelmingly rejects it on moral, not financial grounds, that you're an exception changes nothing.

    I love how you keep mentioning Davenport, but you are too much of a chicken shit to address the article I posted with regard to Dr. Peter Hollands.
    I took a look at his article, he (whoever the hell he is) is making the same dishonest argument that Davenport did that embryonic stem cell research has not cured anyone yet. I addressed that point when I was talking about Davenport. Duh!!!. The techique to extract embryonic stem cells was invented in 1998, just a few years ago and the research has been underfunded ever since. It would take a drug years just to go through FDA approval process, of course no one has been cured yet. Besides theoretical scientific research like stem cell research does not cure diseases, drugs developed based on findings of this research do. It's certainly years away but an overwhelming majority of scientists (with the exception of Davenport and Hollands) agree that it looks very very promising.

    You mention an overwhelming number of scientists support it. Where is your proof of that.
    I provided links in my previous posts, here is another one:

    "An overwhelming majority of scientists, including those who work with adult stem cells, believe there is great promise in human embryonic stem cells, and that the research should not be limited."
    http://www.wicell.org/index.php?opt...gory&id=195&Itemid=170&Modid=107&sectionid=13


    Finally, I too would like to ask JFK why the Democrat led House, Senate, and Presidency were throwing so much money into putting a man on the moon. Doesn't seem like that important of an advancement to me personally.
    Of course it is not important to you personally, but as a good republican you're very proud of Reagan's SDI program which could not have possibly existed without the government-funded space program that preceeded it.
     
    #139     Oct 27, 2006
  10. If you haven't seen or heard the ad, actor Michael J. Fox apparently manipulated his Parkinson's medication so he could do a pro-stem-cell-research ad for a Missouri Democratic candidate, demonstrating what a Parkinson's patient without treatment looks like. In the ad, Fox implies that stem-cell research is the only hope for "millions of Americans -- Americans like me."

    As a Parkinson's patient myself, I know that claim to be hogwash.

    There are drug and non-drug therapies that ameliorate Parkinsonism for millions of patients. There apparently is even one that allows Fox to work as an actor -- without the physical effects he displayed on the ad.

    When he diagnosed me with early-onset Parkinsonism in August 2000, my neurologist explained that there were many therapies for the disease and many more on the horizon. The challenge was finding the one or a combination that worked for me. The involuntary physical movements that Parkinson's patients display are the result of a lack of dopamine in their brains. To put it simply, all the messages don't get from their brains to their muscles.

    The drug therapies didn't work so well on my shaking right hand. So, in June of this year I received a deep brain stimulator (DBS) implant. The DBS is a probe inserted into the brain that uses a programmable electromagnetic field to cancel out the tremors. It works very well for me and thousands of other Parkinson's patients.

    But back to stem-cell research: Dr. Dick Gilson, a professor at the University of Central Florida who teaches neuroscience courses, is actively involved in stem-cell research. He has a strong personal incentive to find applications for Parkinson's; he has the disease. Dick will tell you the promise of stem-cell "cures" is merely speculation; no current science supports it.

    Non-stem-cell research has great promise, but it somehow hasn't captured political imaginations. Earlier this year, gene researchers announced a new therapy, using a virus to place a powerful protein into the brain to change its dopamine-production characteristics. The possible benefits for patients with neurological diseases are great.

    This therapy could be in clinical trials in three to five years, long before any stem-cell application is identified. (http://www.genome newsnetwork.org/articles/10-00/ Parkinsons-monkeys.shtml)

    The embryonic stem-cell debate is not about allowing stem-cell research, because that is taking place unimpeded. The debate really is about legalizing the commerce in human embryos. Fertility clinics have an inventory of surplus embryos, and they want the right to sell them. Like everything else in politics, just follow the dollars.

    Back to Fox: He presumes to speak for those with Parkinson's, but he doesn't speak for me. In the name of politics, he has portrayed himself as a victim. We are victims only if we choose to be.

    Michael J. Fox has chosen to be spokes victim for a fraudulent cause.

    Gary Loftis, a retired Air Force major, lives in Lake Mary.
     
    #140     Oct 27, 2006