Rule of 10 Journal

Discussion in 'Journals' started by jagmot, Aug 6, 2008.

  1. tortoise

    tortoise


    Ok. It just struck me though that, in my enthusiasm for this thread, I was stomping all over your journal. My apologies!

    With your permission then, I'll continue....
     
    #61     Aug 7, 2008
  2. Problem here is entries have no set up plan. Do you go long or short when 10 is hit and is it a fade like hitting a pivot for a few points or is it a true reversal to then move another 10 points. Your assumption here is market moved down 10 points from the high and then based on your stop and targets will move back 10 points to the high.

    This is the problem with the rule, the rule does not state what you do and the targets are not taking into account what is going on in the market. If market is dropping and trend is down, why would one assume a 10 point move off the highs is met by a retrace back 10 points?

    I wish you luck but the problem is the entry is always subjective based on the individual so no general rule can be established.

    I think the Rule of 10, if consistent is better used as a target. If the high was 1291 and you got short at 1289 and the market looks like it will sell off strong, then one can try and look for 1281 as a target on the move.
     
    #62     Aug 7, 2008
  3. tortoise

    tortoise


    Actually, I think this one is pretty clear...you fade 10 points off a reaction high or low, period.

    Jagmont is using a 3:1 r/r. I'm using 2/1. No trade management.
     
    #63     Aug 7, 2008
  4. Exactly. Or put another way, there are no rules in the stock market. That makes this "rule" of 10 a misnomer to start with. Managing it won't work in the end either, because the market is in a constant state of change.

    In the end, I think the journal will prove that the rule, and any management undertaken, will not work. But I will watch with interest. Good luck.

    OldTrader
     
    #64     Aug 7, 2008
  5. tortoise

    tortoise

    My feelings as well. But, as they say, the proof of the pudding is in the tasting...
     
    #65     Aug 7, 2008
  6. His setup is not a fade, his profit target is 10 points. So from 1291 to 1281, BUY and then look for 10 points back to that high. Not a high prob set up IMHO. A fade would make sense for a few points. If he corrected the targets then ignore this post as it could work as a fade trade.
     
    #66     Aug 7, 2008
  7. tortoise

    tortoise


    If that is the case, then I have misunderstood...
     
    #67     Aug 7, 2008
  8. tortoise

    tortoise

    1275.25 target hit


    +6 points.

    - 3
    +6
    ---
    +3 total today
     
    #68     Aug 7, 2008
  9. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    I think it is actually a good idea having 2-3 people running 2-3 different versions, how they understand and apply their rules during the same timeperiod. Then we can compare which one was more effective, profitable,etc.

    Covering now would give a 5-6 pts win and with the previous 3 pts loss it is still profitable for today...
     
    #69     Aug 7, 2008
  10. tortoise

    tortoise

    trade #3 (tortoise 2:1)

    long 1275.50

    stop 1272.50

    target 1281.50
     
    #70     Aug 7, 2008