Rudy Giuliani turns mercenary

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by ZZZzzzzzzz, Jun 14, 2008.

  1. June 14, 2008
    Giuliani Plans to Aid Hopefuls, for His Share

    WASHINGTON — With the Republican Party in need of money for the November elections, former Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani has offered to appear at fund-raisers around the country for G.O.P. candidates. But there is a catch: He wants some cash out of the deal.

    Mr. Giuliani’s aides have told the National Republican Congressional Committee and Congressional candidates that if he makes an appearance, he wants the candidates to help him get rid of his presidential campaign debt.

    The unusual request underscores the financial predicament Mr. Giuliani finds himself in, after he ended his presidential bid this year with roughly $3.6 million in campaign debt. Traditionally, prominent party figures help lower-tier candidates by headlining fund-raising events in return for good will and future political alliances, but do not receive funds themselves.

    Mr. Giuliani’s debt includes a $500,000 personal loan that he made to the campaign, according to his latest campaign finance report.

    Mr. Giuliani’s move has irritated some of his Republican colleagues, who say that the arrangement would put an additional strain on candidates who in many cases are struggling to raise money. Some say rather than making a generous gesture, the former mayor is seeking to tap local candidates’ donors.

    The arrangement Mr. Giuliani is seeking was described by several Republican operatives, members of Congress and their aides, who spoke on the condition of anonymity either because discussions to set up events are continuing or they did not want to be seen criticizing Mr. Giuliani, who still retains some of his national celebrity status.

    “In a year when our candidates are struggling to raise money, this is just another burden,” said a leading Republican Party strategist, who was briefed about the mayor’s request. “This is not about helping the party. This is about helping Rudy Giuliani.”

    Republicans trail their Democratic counterparts significantly this year. The National Republican Congressional Committee has raised $69.2 million and has a cash balance of $6.7 million, according to the most recent figures; the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, in contrast, has raised $92.9 million and has $45.2 million in hand.

    Maria Comella, a spokeswoman for Mr. Giuliani, declined to discuss any specific fund-raising arrangements that the former mayor may have with Republican candidates. “We are going to reach out to different people as we work to successfully retire the debt,” she said.

    Julie Shutley, a spokeswoman for the National Republican Congressional Committee, also declined to discuss arrangements.

    “Holding an event with someone who has the prominence and stature of Mayor Giuliani would be extremely beneficial to our candidates,” she said. “We look forward to working with him as we head into November.”

    The former mayor’s overtures have become a topic of intense discussion among Republicans in Washington. One Republican congressman said recently that his colleagues in the House were swapping stories in the cloakroom about the Giuliani aides’ efforts, and marveling at Mr. Giuliani’s difficulties in generating funds for himself.

    “Other congressmen were saying in passing that they wanted Rudy to do fund-raisers for them, and that his people said that he would do them, but that part of the proceeds would have to go to pay his campaign debt,” the congressman recalled.

    It is unclear how many lawmakers have accepted Mr. Giuliani’s offer. One official at the National Republican Congressional Committee said he was not aware of any events that Mr. Giuliani had done for its candidates, though the official noted that there were efforts to schedule events for later this year.

    The request from the Giuliani aides has taken different forms. The aides have told Republican officials in Washington that the mayor would like to hold what would essentially become joint fund-raisers with the local candidates, where donors would give to the congressional hopeful and then write a separate check to the former mayor.

    Representative Jon Porter, a Republican from Nevada, contacted Mr. Giuliani’s political organization, asking that the former mayor headline a fund-raising event for the congressman. Mr. Giuliani’s aides then asked that Mr. Porter, who had endorsed Mr. Giuliani for president, put together a joint Porter-Giuliani event in Nevada to raise money to pay off his presidential campaign debt, according to a Republican official who was told of the discussions.

    Mr. Porter did not respond to a request for comment.

    The fact that Mr. Giuliani — who had an estimated net worth of at least $30 million in 2006, according to financial disclosure forms filed last year — has loaned his campaign money gives the fund-raising a particular urgency. Candidates generally have unlimited time to pay off campaign debt. But if any portion of a personal loan to a campaign is unpaid by the end of an election cycle, the maximum amount that can be repaid with money raised after that is $250,000, according to Bob Biersack, a spokesman for the Federal Election Commission.

    That means that Mr. Giuliani could have to forgive all or part of his $500,000 loan if he does not raise the funds to pay it back before September, when Senator John McCain is formally chosen as the Republican presidential nominee, officially ending the primary elections.

    On another front, Mr. Giuliani is also moving to install one of his top lieutenants to the chairmanship of the New York Republican Party, a move that several New York Republicans say is part of an effort to place allies in positions that can help his political organization raise money. Anthony V. Carbonetti, whom Mr. Giuliani wants to put in the job, is a founding partner and managing director of Giuliani Partners, the former mayor’s consulting firm, and served as chief of staff to the mayor from 1999 to 2001.

    Political analysts say that Mr. Giuliani’s once prolific fund-raising abilities have been hampered by several factors. Perhaps most significant is the fact that Mr. Giuliani neither holds a position in government nor is a candidate for public office. Both qualities are attractive to donors who are looking for access to government.

    Beyond that, the reputation of Mr. Giuliani was hurt by the sudden collapse of his presidential campaign, as well as by the allegations of corruption that hung over Bernard B. Kerik, a former police commissioner in the Giuliani administration.
  2. Hillary Clinton faces the same problem, in that she has a short time frame to retire her personal loans to her campaign. Of course, the media don't consider it at all newsworthy or scandalous that a prominent democrat will do essentially the same thing as Guiliani.
  3. More reactionary stuff from the right.

    This is about Rudy, isn't it?

    Why not just agree that Rudy is scum?

    You can start another thread to illustrate that Hillary is scum...

    Please, the more you try to defend your own by strawman tactics the weaker you look...

    I am very serious when I say this AAA, but you come off as someone who really has no principles beyond rationalizing what repubs do by what dems may do...

    What dems would do wrong would make repubs right to do the same?

    What Rudy is doing is right or wrong?

    How about leaving it at that...

  4. kut2k2



    AAA like most Republicans is a card-carrying member of the "two wrongs make a right" club, even if they have to make up the wrong on the other side. They've tried to raise false equivalency to an art form.
  5. What crap. I've never been a Rudy fan or defender. I don't see what he's doing as good or bad. It's just what pols do. It's clearly legal and proper under campaign finance laws. He's not an officeholder, so I don;t see any conflict. Clearly he has rubbed some other republicans the wrong way by demanding an override on money he raises. Is it news that Rudy is not exactly above grubbing for money?

    I cite Hillary to show that what he is doing is not abnormal. Of course, as a sitting Senator she is far more compromised by begging for money, which is precisely why she will get a lot more of it.

    Bottom line, the media and democrat kool aid guzzlers like ZZZ seem incapable of anything but a huge double standard.
  6. LOL!

    You don't even see that you are using what Hillary does to excuse what Rudy is doing.

    That something is "normal" makes it right?

    Very funny, and very revealing of the underbelly of the dittohead neocon right wingers...

    By your own words Rudy is "grubbing for money" but because Hillary will do it, that makes it normal and nothing to denounce.

    Why not just denounce the slimy nature of those politicians that grub for money?

    Why not simply denounce Rudy for being a slime bag?

    Why make any attempt to minimize the sliminess by saying "others do it too..."

    When you accept this slimy type of politician as "normal" it shows how much you are accepting of slimy behavior in our politicians.

    Why not just stand up and say "I am disgusted with this type of slimy behavior by Rudy and all the other slimy republicans, and I denounce this behavior wholeheartedly."

  7. kut2k2


    The worst of it is that Hillary hasn't even done anything yet. And she may never.

    So her alleged "future crime" (thought crime?) is "exactly the same" as Rudy's REAL (as in right now) misdeed. :eek:

    False-equivalency rationalizing, courtesy of the GOP. Bringing you fake moralism and other bullshit ever since they got rid of Eisenhower.