Ron Paul says healthcare not a right

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Kassz007, Jul 16, 2009.

  1. Do you really think giving up beer and cigarettes would enable a person to be able to afford insurance? That would have to be a hell of alot of beer and cigarettes.

    Why wouldn't you want a world where people can afford beer, cigarettes, AND healthcare?
     
    #231     Jul 22, 2009
  2. Yes, Lucrum has that effect on people. Perhaps if he keeps it up I will finally be free of ET's shackles.
     
    #232     Jul 22, 2009
  3. 151

    151

    Please do not get me wrong. I would be happier if people could afford everything they want and health coverage.

    But the fact is too many people say they cannot afford health coverage when they are spending money on beer and cigarettes.

    Lets assume a pack a day= I dont know 6 bucks?
    plus two six packs a week =again I dont know maybe 12 bucks?

    thats about 275 a month.
     
    #233     Jul 22, 2009
  4. I used to live in Western Europe. There's no debate - they're all very ethnocentric and America bashing over there. The Italians are living in their own filth and the French die by the thousands in a heat wave because they don't have A/C, but it's America that sucks.

    If this health care BS passes as is, they will definitely have better health care. In France, you can buy unregulated health insurance in addition to the state health care service. That won't be option here.
     
    #234     Jul 22, 2009
  5. interesting. I didn't do anything special. We should talk off the message board about this.
     
    #235     Jul 22, 2009
  6. I suspect you regard your penis and sexual prowess as adequate and I suspect your boyfriends do not.

    You're out of your league, pumpkin. You offer nothing of any value and that must be terribly upsetting to you. Run along.
     
    #236     Jul 22, 2009
  7. Kazz,

    You, by your own admission, have never been seriously ill. You have no clue what kind of healthcare you have.

    Also, giving up beer, smokes, fast food and a 52 inch plasma seems a small price to pay for life saving treatment. Dontcha think? I mean if your life wouldn't be worth living without any of that, then you really have to question how empty your life is.

    Besides, you're Canadian, so what you think of America's health care arrangements doesn't matter. You don't get a vote.
     
    #237     Jul 22, 2009
  8. Yeah, but you don't die by the thousands during a heat wave.

    Actually, they hate the Germans more. In Europe, the mutual hatred is pretty amusing.

    Live expectancy is such a canard. Normally, I just state the obvious: life expectancy is greater because the French aren't fat pigs (12% obesity rate) while the Americans are (30+% obesity rate). But, just for you, I'll go further: the difference is not statistically significant AND when you compare the U.S. population of European extraction, the life expectancy is exactly the same a France's (and most of Western Europe). Genetic predisposition to certain life-shortening illnesses have a big effect on life expectancy, so you have to also cut the data by race. Hispanics and blacks unfortunately have a higher predisposition toward life shortening illnesses like diabetes and heart disease.
     
    #238     Jul 22, 2009
  9. The projection is palpable, sniffy.
     
    #239     Jul 22, 2009
  10. No, I'm a woman, Thunderpoo. I'm meant to have boyfriends and guys like you always over-estimate themselves.

    But, I apologize. I shouldn't have stooped all the way down to your level and made that totally irrelevant comment after pointing out that you never add anything useful to the discussion.
     
    #240     Jul 22, 2009