Ron Paul says healthcare not a right

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Kassz007, Jul 16, 2009.

  1. Correction: "rethinking" assumes initial thought or consideration.
     
    #171     Jul 21, 2009
  2. There's a really simple solution to all this nonsense. Send a letter out to every taxpayer. The question is simple:
    Do you support the Presidents Healthcare plan?
    A yes vote means that you are willing to be taxed at whatever rate it takes to pay for the plan. A no vote means you will not see any increase in your taxes should the plan be put in place. The yes voters will pay for the entire deal.
    Moral of the story...you want to play good samaritan, you do it on your dime, not mine.
     
    #172     Jul 21, 2009
  3. How challenging it must be for people whose foresight extends only to their nose.
     
    #173     Jul 21, 2009
  4. Perhaps, culturally, this is where America is different from that of other countries. The willingness to have a little less in order to give a fellow citizen in need a little more.
     
    #174     Jul 21, 2009
  5. Your statement implies that noone here in the USA can afford to have a major operation or procedure should they need one. That's what my insurance is for. I have health insurance and so do most other Americans. My family & I do not have to wait through insanely, ridicuolus wait times for medical procedures either, like you folks do. Why would any sane, rationally thinking person want socialized medicine, unless they absolutely couldn't afford insurance?
     
    #175     Jul 21, 2009
  6. But a sizeable percentage of your population cannot afford it! So are you saying fuck your countrymen? And didn't Obama say that if you like your existing health insurance plan that you would be able to keep it?

    P.S. Help me out. I'm Canadian. Is it "We the people" for you guys, or is it "We some of the people?"

    Hint: “We, the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”
     
    #176     Jul 21, 2009
  7. were we given the opportunity to do that for the bush war?
     
    #177     Jul 21, 2009
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    the1

    Go have a stroke and then try to buy insurance.

     
    #178     Jul 21, 2009
  9. Funny, the USA easily leads the world in charity. From Tsunamis to Red Cross to places like Kuwait, when Iraq decided it was the 19th province...

    In WW2, we sank something like 95+% of all Japanese shipping (the British and Dutch sank a few) and pretty much fought the war with minimal help from countries that, including China & the Philippines and many others. We kept Britain alive during the Nazi bombing attacks and represented the majority of victories from countries that were not directly occupied.

    Then we almost singlehandedly rebuilt Germany and Japan under the marshall plan. And we forgave a huge amount of war debt from countries like France and England.

    An awful lot of American resources went into Korea and Vietnam when communism desired to take over both peninsulas, when IN fact, during the Chinese and Russian communist era and expansion into places like Eastern Europe and Mongolia, Canada may not have existed as a free country today if the US had not opposed them militarily.

    Tens of millions of immigrants and refugees, including > 10 million illegal immigrants come to the USA, desiring to send money home to help many more people in poorer countries.

    Different? Most of the world complains about almost everything. But it costs little to be a critic. You might find if Canada had 300 million people along with their current economy, you might have been similar to the US, and might not be so self-righteous.
     
    #179     Jul 21, 2009
  10. Ah...... Kassz I think you just spilled the beans.

    "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" Where have I heard that before? I'll bet Angrycat can tell you. And, it didn't work out to well.

    I hope more people with Angrycat's idealogy move here from abroad, then maybe we can get this place straightened out.
     
    #180     Jul 21, 2009