Ron Paul Receives His Biggest Endorsement Yet!

DemZad · Jan 4, 2012

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No, I'm going to expose you for the lowlife POS with no honor that you are by taking this public.

You started this by slandering me and you wouldn't stop even after I repeatedly told you it was a lie. I even apologized to you for my part in your skepticism AND sent you the following PM trying to keep this private BUT STILL no apology. Not only that, you callied me a "friggin' asshole" and are still pretending to be Billy Badass.

Here's the PM, every bit of which I'm willing to PROVE. I'll leave it to the gentle readers of P&R to judge our respective characters.

Trader666 wrote on 01-04-12 04:13 PM:
FIRST, please read this:

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=3404263#post3404263

Now, here's what I've gathered so far to have verified at the local attorney of Magna's choice:

1) One Bronze Star (original certificate and orders).

2) Nomination for a second Bronze Star that I "deserved" more but was not approved. There may be one more recommendation, I really don't remember or give a shit because it's no big deal and the people who really deserve the recognition never came back or did in a box.

3) Official Department of the Army OMPF Microfiche with evaluation reports. First line of the evaluation for my FIRST combat tour is: "Exceptionally strong performance in combat."

4) Notarized DD214 verifying Bronze Star and containing PLENTY of other proof I'm a combat veteran which is none of anyone's fucking business.

5) Property tax receipt showing I get a combat veteran's discount meaning I've proven it to "the state."

I could dig up A LOT more but think this should suffice...
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OK, then we do this public or not at all. No third parties.

RCG Trader · Jan 4, 2012

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We each have our opinions and if these last few weeks have shown anything, I rather doubt we will change them. Having said that, I will send RCG something in a day or two (my stuff is in storage) and we can move forward from this.

Allow me to give you a bit of unsolicited advice. I know you are passionate about your positions. I agree with none of them but I recognize passion when I see it. Don't pretend otherwise. You want to influence people just as much as I do so my advice is this, you will catch more flies with honey than you ever will with vinegar. In short, don't be such a friggin' asshole and let's try to have some civil debate going forward. Stop all the name calling because if there is one thing we can probably agree on, America is in serious trouble right now.

I will do my part...will you?
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+1

" We must hang together, or we will surely hang separately"--Ben Franklin.

Ricter · Jan 4, 2012

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OK, then we do this public or not at all. No third parties.
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Don't waste the time or space. This is the digital, Photoshop era. I'd never bet a dime on authenticity. Remember the birther thing? So much less so our own documents.

DemZad · Jan 4, 2012

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Don't waste the time or space. This is the digital, Photoshop era. I'd never bet a dime on authenticity. Remember the birther thing? So much less so our own documents.
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My proposal was to present evidence and let the community judge. Based on evidence presented I would have been able to ask followup questions (as would Trader666).

There is no such thing as a neutral third party but I was willing to accept who he had chosen. Since that is no longer enough, it's my way or an impasse.

RCG Trader · Jan 4, 2012

Quote from Trader666:

No, I'm going to expose you for the lowlife POS with no honor that you are by taking this public.

You started this by slandering me and you wouldn't stop even after I repeatedly told you it was a lie. I even apologized to you for my part in your skepticism AND sent you the following PM trying to keep this private BUT STILL no apology. Not only that, you callied me a "friggin' asshole" and are still pretending to be Billy Badass.

Here's the PM, every bit of which I'm willing to PROVE. I'll leave it to the gentle readers of P&R to judge our respective characters.

Trader666 wrote on 01-04-12 04:13 PM:
FIRST, please read this:

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=3404263#post3404263

Now, here's what I've gathered so far to have verified at the local attorney of Magna's choice:

1) One Bronze Star (original certificate and orders).

2) Nomination for a second Bronze Star that I "deserved" more but was not approved. There may be one more recommendation, I really don't remember or give a shit because it's no big deal and the people who really deserve the recognition never came back or did in a box.

3) Official Department of the Army OMPF Microfiche with evaluation reports. First line of the evaluation for my FIRST combat tour is: "Exceptionally strong performance in combat."

4) Notarized DD214 verifying Bronze Star and containing PLENTY of other proof I'm a combat veteran which is none of anyone's fucking business.

5) Property tax receipt showing I get a combat veteran's discount meaning I've proven it to "the state."

I could dig up A LOT more but think this should suffice...
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6, he is standing down.... what's up?

Trader666 · Jan 4, 2012

Bullshit. The community can decide with what's been posted so far and real life verification with local attorneys OF MAGNA'S CHOICE who BTW are officers of the court. I'm pretty sure the character issue's already been proven.

Unlike you, I'm not willing to denigrate my service with your juvenile post fest.

And attorney verification would prove not only the stuff is real but it's mine. You really think I can fabricate a microfiche OMPF, embossed award certificate, notarized DD214, etc? Give me a break.

Yet again you show us what you're made of -- Bullshit.

Quote from DAS Trader:

My proposal was to present evidence and let the community judge. Based on evidence presented I would have been able to ask followup questions (as would Trader666).

There is no such thing as a neutral third party but I was willing to accept who he had chosen. Since that is no longer enough, it's my way or an impasse.
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RCG Trader · Jan 4, 2012

Quote from DAS Trader:

My proposal was to present evidence and let the community judge. Based on evidence presented I would have been able to ask followup questions (as would Trader666).

There is no such thing as a neutral third party but I was willing to accept who he had chosen. Since that is no longer enough, it's my way or an impasse.
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Okay, that's fair also, but if he did have to do things he is not proud of, is that fair to ask him to expose that?

Devils Advocate.

Trader666 · Jan 4, 2012

Whoa... there's NOTHING I'm not proud of. I've already disclosed more than enough. The rest (which would only support my case) is nobody's damn business.

Quote from RCG Trader:

Okay, that's fair also, but if he did have to do things he is not proud of, is that fair to ask him to expose that?

Devils Advocate.
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DemZad · Jan 4, 2012

Quote from Trader666:

Bullshit. The community can decide with what's been posted so far and real life verification with local attorneys OF MAGNA'S CHOICE who BTW are officers of the court. I'm pretty sure the character issue's already been proven.

Unlike you, I'm not willing to denigrate my service with your juvenile post fest.

And attorney verification would prove not only the stuff is real but it's mine. You really think I can fabricate a microfiche OMPF, embossed award certificate, notarized DD214, etc? Give me a break.

Yet again you show us what you're made of -- Bullshit.
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Sorry, I cannot take anyone else's word for it. Since you want to be stubborn I will respond in kind.

To me, if you've served, it does not denigrate anything to post those awards, etc. You should be proud of them.

Also, by posting information concerning your service, I would be able to ask followup questions, as would you. As Ricter stated, this is the age of photo shop and I was never going to be satisfied with just the docs.

So, back to square one.

Trader666 · Jan 4, 2012

Bullshit. You can't "photoshop" an official microfiche OMPF, an embossed award certificate, or a notarized DD214.

And attorneys OF MAGNA'S CHOICE are officers of the court. Or do you "think" they would they be "Zionist shills" too?

We're not "back to square one." You're showing you're more of a troll with every post.

Quote from DAS Trader:

Sorry, I cannot take anyone else's word for it. Since you want to be stubborn I will respond in kind.

To me, if you've served, it does not denigrate anything to post those awards, etc. You should be proud of them.

Also, by posting information concerning your service, I would be able to ask followup questions, as would you. As Ricter stated, this is the age of photo shop and I was never going to be satisfied with just the docs.

So, back to square one.
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