Ron Paul Humiliates Ben Bernanke so bad that CNBC had to cut him off.

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by aeliodon, Jul 16, 2008.

  1. JSSPMK

    JSSPMK

    Bingo! Spot on ImPO
     
    #41     Jul 16, 2008
  2. Hoho - another Blame America First Liberal!

    "The blame goes to those who sold out American workers for that cheaper suit made in Brazil. " Chicken first or egg? Maybe his declining real wages make him look for cheaper suits to wear to work.

    "Or for that sporty car Detroit just couldn't build to our yuppie scum specifications. " You mean like the GM EV1 electric car that was available years ago but was shredded in favor of going back to "concept cars" you can't buy? That was American innovation at work. Who would be ahead in those cars now if it wasn't scrapped back then?

    "They said Asia builds my dreams cheaper." And companies get tax breaks for moving overseas too. Thank you sniveling, grubbing, whiny politicians.

    "America is filled with bitching, whining, duplicitous losers." Then leave. Like Halliburton.
     
    #42     Jul 16, 2008
  3. Liberal? LMFAO. I'm the most ultra right wing person on this board. And don't misconstrue what I'm saying. In most ways Europe is just as f'ed as us. The tell will be when gold rallies some day on dollar strength.

    As far as the rest of your post. Further bs.
     
    #43     Jul 16, 2008
  4. We need a real economy, not one based on consumption and housing..
    It's what we USED to have, when the economy of this country was actually GREAT.
    Letting these shitty companies collapse is the BEST thing we can do..Purge the economy of its excesses. Punish the fool hardy. Sure, it'll hurt. But it has to be done...

    The thing with housing is that there is absolutely nothing the Fed can do. Home prices HAVE to fall...

    If not, and if the Fed can keep gauzing up a gushing jugular, then the USD Dollar will get absolutely shredded. In that scenario, people can keep their 800K townhomes, but they will be paying 10$ / gallon for gas, and 5$ for a loaf of bread...

    Wait till interest rates are in the double digits...the big question is will that number have a 1 or a 3 in front?
     
    #44     Jul 16, 2008

  5. This is a clever statement? It is not a tax. It is the way the world operates.

    Inflation has been going up for centuries. Inflation exists in all 230 countries.

    If Ron Paul was President, inflation would still go up.

    In the 1950s, the average person made a buck or two an hour. But things were also cheap.

    In this decade, the average American makes $20-$30 an hour. And things are more expensive. Wages keep pace.

    But by all counts, people now are wealthier, with bigger houses, more possessions and more opportunities than people of the 1950s. People then owned a car, no computers, few electronics, rarely traveled far, etc.

    And a hundred years ago, there were few homeowners and mostly renters.

    If inflation were at 0%, wage increases would almost completely stop.

    Again, inflation is not a tax. It goes up, and so do average wages.

    This Ron Paul lovefest over a stupid statement is sickening. Learn a little economics and grow up, folks!
     
    #45     Jul 16, 2008
  6. JSSPMK

    JSSPMK

    USA will probably merge with Canada & Mexico, just like Europe in time will merge & Asia & perhaps sometime in the future there will be just one state. Markets have always worked on positive expectations & always will. We create & destruct, there is no God.
     
    #46     Jul 16, 2008
  7. JSSPMK

    JSSPMK

    The main reason we have disbalances is because we don't like stability, humans are not machines, we get bored with repetitive processes, so we create new modules, which sometimes work & sometimes don't. Credit Crunch is nothing more but another module which hasn't worked in light of very low interest rates.
     
    #47     Jul 16, 2008
  8. I think you are leaving out the time value of money. That was what Paul was also saying.

    If I print more money and get to use it first, it buys me what a dollar buys TODAY. By the time all that extra money ripples out through down to the rest of YOU, it is inflationary. So there is almost a class-creation of who gets to use it first.

    If you think your wages are going to rise at the same rate that money can be printed, that would be unusual. And in times when unemployment is rising, maybe it's not even possible to get your wages to even match.
     
    #48     Jul 16, 2008
  9. opt789

    opt789

    I lost faith in CNBC a long time ago. When the news broke that one of NBC's nighttime "news" programs faked an explosion of a GM truck, GM was giving an emotional news conference about what NBC did. Well wouldn't you know it, I was watching CNBC at the time and they conveniently cut off the news conference the second they figured out what GM was saying and never went back to it. I had to turn to Court TV to watch. You can claim the Ron Paul cutoff was coincidentally, but what I saw was blatantly obvious.
     
    #49     Jul 16, 2008

  10. This also has no meaning. People make a certain amount of money and things cost a certain amount of money. Wages and costs both go up.

    The average family in 2006 made almost 3 times the income as people in 2006 (in 2006 dollars). Inflation and time value of money is already factored in.

    Basically, people have gotten wealthier on average every year. Some, but not all families are 2-income, but regardless, the average American is much better off now than a long time ago.

    And do we want to go back to the 1800s? When most Americans were relatively destitute? No stocks or investments or retirement. Few possessions. Basically working hard and dying young?
    ___________________________________________________________________
    ALL FAMILIES - MEAN FAMILY INCOME

    YEAR, $$$WAGE, IN 2006 $$$

    1947 3,546 27,414
    1948 3,671 26,256
    1949 3,569 25,838
    1950 3,815 27,286
    1951 4,194 27,782
    1952 4,457 28,941
    1953 4,706 30,358
    1954 4,684 29,955
    1955 4,962 31,871
    1956 5,341 33,792
    1957 5,443 33,368
    1958 5,565 33,155
    1959 5,976 35,390
    1960 6,227 36,224
    1961 6,471 37,277
    1962 6,670 38,054
    1963 6,998 39,394
    1964 7,336 40,754
    1965 7,704 42,088
    1966 8,395 44,628
    1967 8,801 45,400
    1968 9,670 47,961
    1969 10,577 50,270
    1970 11,106 50,360
    1971 11,583 50,289
    1972 12,625 53,176
    1973 13,622 53,996
    1974 14,711 53,056
    1975 15,546 51,779
    1976 16,870 53,141
    1977 18,264 54,080
    1978 20,091 56,982
    1979 22,316 57,760
    1980 23,974 55,851
    1981 25,838 54,961
    1982 27,391 54,949
    1983 28,638 55,099
    1984 31,052 57,394
    1985 32,944 58,870
    1986 34,924 61,298
    1987 36,884 62,622
    1988 38,608 63,229
    1989 41,506 65,164
    1990 42,652 63,784
    1991 43,237 62,421
    1992 44,221 62,263
    1993 47,221 64,882
    1994 49,340 66,377
    1995 51,353 67,461
    1996 53,676 68,684
    1997 56,902 71,272
    1998 59,589 73,610
    1999 62,567 75,709
    2000 65,773 77,008
    2001 66,863 76,147
    2002 66,970 75,056
    2003 68,563 75,163
    2004 70,389 75,134
    2005 73,304 75,707
    2006 $77,315 $77,315

    from: InflationData.com
     
    #50     Jul 16, 2008