Ron Paul Defends Romney

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by pspr, Jan 10, 2012.

  1. pspr


    You have to admire Paul for not doing what a few of the other candidates have resorted to in trying to knock down Romney for their own benefit.

    In an exclusive interview outside a Manchester polling place, Ron Paul lashed out at fellow Republicans for making unfair and ignorant attacks on Mitt Romney’s business record.

    “I think they’re wrong. I think they’re totally misunderstanding the way the market works,” Paul told me. “They are either just demogoging or they don’t have the vaguest idea how the market works.”

    Paul also came to Romney’s defense for saying “I like to be able to fire people.”

    The actual quote was "I like to be able to fire people WHO PROVIDE SERVICES TO ME".

  2. I totally agree with you and Dr. Paul. Wow.

  3. pspr


    Common ground. Not much of that around here.

  4. Ricter


    "Lots of people can’t fire their insurance companies

    Governor Romney is getting a lot of heat for a line that appears to have been ...taken out of context. I’d like to talk about it in context. [My emphasis] I think that’s much more illuminating:

    “I want individuals to have their own insurance. That means the insurance company will have an incentive to keep people healthy. It also means if you don’t like what they do, you can fire them. I like being able to fire people who provide services to me. If someone doesn’t give me the good service I need, I’m going to go get somebody else to provide that service to me.”

    Gov. Romney is not saying that he enjoys telling people that they no longer have a job. He’s saying that, when it comes to health insurance, if a company is doing a bad job, he would enjoy telling them to take a hike. Who wouldn’t?

    First of all, let’s unpack the idea that if individuals have their own insurance, the “insurance company will have an incentive to keep [them] healthy”. That’s totally backwards. The idea that people might fire their insurance companies is exactly why they don’t have an incentive to keep you healthy. Insurance companies preferentially cover healthy people, and they want those who are ill to leave, or, better yet, not enroll in the first place. Captive populations, like those in the VA, or maybe plans with long-term contracts through big employers might have the right incentive, but the types of plans Gov. Romney seems to have in mind don’t do the very thing he is saying they do. Insurance companies have a vested interest in keeping you healthy when you can’t or won’t leave.

    But that’s the least of his problems. The real issue, unfortunately, is that very, very few people have the luxury that Gov. Romney is endorsing. Let’s say that you are self-employed, and lucky enough to have found a company to provide you with health insurance. Then, let’s say you develop cancer. You suddenly find out that your insurance company stinks. So you fire them, right?

    Of course not. You’re screwed. Now you have a pre-existing condition. There’s not an insurance company out there that wants to cover you. So you don’t fire them. You scream, and curse, and cry, but you’re stuck. Only healthy people have the luxury of picking and choosing.

    Let’s also not forget that most people don’t find out that they’re not getting “good service” until they’re sick. Healthy people don’t make much use of their insurance, so they don’t know how bad it is. They only find out after they’re ill, and then it’s too late. It’s only fun to fire the insurance company if you’re sure you can go to another company to get what you need. Almost no one can.

    Of course, you could be so assured if guaranteed issue was the law. It would be even better if there were community ratings, so you knew the next insurance company couldn’t gouge you for being sick. That’s the case in Massachussetts, under the law Governor Romney signed, so it’s possible he’s just thinking back to that.

    It’s also true under the ACA. But if that gets repealed, as Governor Romney suggests, then very few Americans, excepting those that live in states like Massachusetts, will get to enjoy the firing he proclaims to enjoy."

    Aaron Carroll,
  5. Of course it was out of context, but that did not stop Rush this morning from pounding Mittens about the head and face with it.

    Mittens has got to be smarter. As so does Paul, for that matter. Politics is a game of chess, or of football. Let's just use football.

    Tebow beat the Steelers because he lined in a formation that screamed, run, but, he threw. Politics is like that. If Mittens does not learn what to say and when he is dead meat.

    Same with Ron Paul.
  6. Epic


    Looks like Paul's willingness to be a Romney ally and constant flag bearer for free markets is giving him a huge edge over those who chose to criticize Mitt on the topic.
  7. Lucrum


    I know I do. I don't agree with all of his agenda/ideas. But, for me at least, he is far and away the best candidate.