Romney over Obama?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Maverick74, Dec 13, 2010.

  1. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    So are you saying you did not vote for Obama? Because you know, he believes in those so called "little green men" too.
     
    #21     Dec 13, 2010
  2. if by "those little green men" you mean the christian cult i think its different. christianity is such a well established and old superstition with so much history behind it that it is not surprising if one "believes"in this country.
    mormanism is different. it is a young religion that we can trace back to it very beginning. it is well established that it was created by a con man. any educated individual would have no problem documenting that fact. to not be able to give it up when you know its a fraud is telling.
    would it change your opinion if romney was a moonie?
     
    #22     Dec 13, 2010
  3. jem

    jem

    given the that science has identified so many finely tuned constants in our universe. And give that so my nobel prize winning scientists now state our universe looks designed, it is amazing that people like free thinker state there is no God.

    Next, I wonder how many evangelicals would not vote for Romney because he is a mormon... the few evangelicals I know, would vote for Romney over Obama all day long.

    Sure some of them prefer Huckabee but they have no problem voting for Romney over Obama.

    Besides as soon as the new year starts and some states start making proof of citizenship a requirement to get on the ballot I expect Obama to file a few suits and them come out and say he is stepping aside for Hillary. The whole time many of us will be wondering why he would rather file suits than produce proof.... and obamaloons will be coming up with reasons why he should not have to provide proof.



    Romney vs. Hillary... that will be interesting.
     
    #23     Dec 13, 2010
  4. Birthers are keeping hope alive:D
     
    #24     Dec 13, 2010
  5. i would say i am in pretty good company. the thinking people:
    ""By one count there are some 700 scientists with respectable academic credentials (out of a total of 480,000 U.S. earth and life scientists) who give credence to creation-science..."
     
    #25     Dec 13, 2010
  6. jem

    jem

    I am not talking about creation science... I am talking about physics. Noble Prize winners in physics and biology. You can bury your head in the sand.... but know you are playing the fool when you say you know there is no God. (this is not directed at agnostics only atheist who say they know there is no God.)



    “When I began my career as a cosmologist some twenty years ago, I was a convinced atheist. I never in my wildest dreams imagined that one day I would be writing a book purporting to show that the central claims of Judeo-Christian theology are in fact true, that these claims are straightforward deductions of the laws of physics as we now understand them. I have been forced into these conclusions by the inexorable logic of my own special branch of physics.”

    - Frank Tipler (Professor of Mathematical Physics) Tipler, F.J. 1994. The Physics Of Immortality. New York, Doubleday, Preface.

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    The human mind is not capable of grasping the Universe. We are like a little child entering a huge library. The walls are covered to the ceilings with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written these books. It does not know who or how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. But the child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books - a mysterious order which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects.”

    - Albert Einstein
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    Astronomy leads us to a unique event, a universe which was created out of nothing, one with the very delicate balance needed to provide exactly the conditions required to permit life, and one which has an underlying (one might say ‘supernatural’) plan.”

    - Arno Penzias (Nobel prize in physics) Margenau, H and R.A. Varghese, ed. 1992. Cosmos, Bios, and Theos. La Salle, IL, Open Court, p. 83.

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    It is, for example, impossible for evolution to account for the fact than one single cell can carry more data than all the volumes of the Encyclopedia Britannica put together.”

    “It now seems to me that the findings of more than fifty years of DNA research have provided materials for a new and enormously powerful argument to design.”

    -Anthony Flew
    Professor of Philosophy, former atheist, author, and debater

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    There is a wide measure of agreement which, on the physical side of science approaches almost unanimity, that the stream of knowledge is heading towards a non-mechanical reality; the universe begins to look more like a great thought than a great machine. Mind no longer appears as an accidental intruder into the realm of matter. We are beginning to suspect that we ought rather to hail mind as the creator and governor of the realm of matter—not of course our individual minds, but the mind in which the atoms out of which our individual minds have grown, exist as thoughts.”

    - Sir James Jeans knighted mathematician, physicist and astronomer who helped develop our understanding of the evolution of stars, wrote this in his book The Mysterious Universe (Cambridge, 1931).

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    16O has exactly the right nuclear energy level either to prevent all the carbon from turning into oxygen or to facilitate sufficient production of 16O for life. Fred Hoyle, who discovered these coincidences in 1953, concluded that “a superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well as with chemistry and biology.”

    - Hoyle, Fred. “The Universe: Past and Present Reflections,” in Annual Review of Astronomy and Astrophysics, 20. (1982), p.16
    (for more of these coincidences click here)

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    “If you equate the probability of the birth of a bacteria cell to chance assembly of its atoms, eternity will not suffice to produce one… Faced with the enormous sum of lucky draws behind the success of the evolutionary game, one may legitimately wonder to what extent this success is actually written into the fabric of the universe.”

    - Christian de Duve. “A Guided Tour of the Living Cell” (Nobel laureate and organic chemist)

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    http://www.simpletoremember.com/art...science-quotes/

    and there more at that link...
     
    #26     Dec 13, 2010
  7. President David Palmer would leave all currently mentioned candidates in the dust........... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InCAYD2AD3Q&feature=related

    What America lacks is honorable men not corrupted by globalist influences to stand up and lead through a trust built with WE THE PEOPLE! .....so far we have no honorable candidates mentioned here.
     
    #27     Dec 13, 2010
  8. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    When I first saw that I thought it read "Jeffery Dahmer".
     
    #28     Dec 13, 2010
  9. jem

    jem

    I have no idea where he was born... I just note that he has not produced any evidence.

    Do you have any evidence of where he was born.. Has he personally said these are my records?

    So, it will be interesting to see if he produces anything for the states who will be requiring proof.

    You want to call me a birther... but you are the loon. You have zero evidence of where he was born.
     
    #29     Dec 14, 2010
  10. I have seen evidence as to where he was born,the entire world has.


    The State of of Hawaii said he was born there,on paper and in official announcements.The State of Hawaii has also shot down many of the lies the birthers have spread about Obamas birth

    For the States who require proof,he has provided proof.The States that dont want to accept that will get a reality check from the Supreme Court.All states have to accept other states official documents ,and that includes birth certificates.Obama has provided an official birth certificate from the State of Hawaii.That birth certificate allowed him to get a passport,drivers license,and be on every ballot in the 2008 elections

    The Constitution says Congress certifies elections,and they did so in Obamas case.A Supreme court Justice also swore him in.Obama is The President,he will be on every ballot in 2012.If he is kicked out of office it will be because voters kicked him out,not because of birthers
     
    #30     Dec 14, 2010