Romney Looks Like the Next Pres

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jem, Apr 13, 2012.

  1. jem

    jem

    Note... re: bet with brass.

    waffling is not how I would characterize the situation.
    Brass lies about historical facts, and statements in threads.
    He insists he presented evidence that certain tax cuts were not followed by higher revenue.

    I offered to leave ET if he could prove he provided the evidence he said he did. And then he would leave if he did not present the evidence.

    He refuses to leave and still misrepresents the truth.

    He did not present the evidence because the Reagan tax cuts and Kennedy and Melon tax cuts were followed by increase revenue.
    Yet this troll still goes around acting like he presented evidence to the contrary.

    Why would I take a bet with a unrepentant fraud.

    falsus in uno falsus in omnibus
     
    #691     Apr 30, 2012
  2. Ricter

    Ricter

    Certain tax cuts were followed by... tax increases.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaganomics
     
    #692     Apr 30, 2012
  3. Arizona might be coming into play for Obama.


    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/23/poll-obama-and-romney-tied-in-arizona/



    Poll: Obama and Romney tied in Arizona


    (CNN) - The battle between President Barack Obama and all-but-certain GOP nominee Mitt Romney for Arizona's eleven electoral votes stands neck and neck, according to a poll released Monday.

    Arizona, which has voted for only one Democratic presidential candidate in sixty years, has become a hot battleground in 2012, partly because of the state's increasing Latino population.



    The poll from Arizona State University's Merrill/Morrison Institute indicated 42% of registered voters in Arizona backing Romney and 40% supporting Obama. The margin was well within the poll's sampling error of plus or minus 4.4 percentage points.

    A large portion of respondents – 18% - said they were undecided in who they would support in the November's general election. Among independents, the undecided figure was far higher. Thirty-four percent of voters who said they were independents said they hadn't yet picked a candidate to support.

    "As the poll shows, the independents will decide this election in Arizona," Dr. David Daugherty, director of research at Morrison Institute for Public Policy, said in a statement accompanying the poll's release. "But, it's important to remember the state's history: Arizona has supported only one Democratic presidential candidate since Harry S Truman was elected in 1948. Winning Arizona will be an uphill battle for President Obama."

    As Daugherty noted, Arizona has consistently voted Republican for decades, with the single Democratic win coming in 1996 for Bill Clinton. In 2008, Obama made an effort to win Arizona, despite being pitted against a longtime senator from the state, John McCain. Obama eventually lost to McCain by an 8-point margin.

    Since then, however, Latinos have grown in population, boosting Democrats' confidence in winning Arizona. Latinos made up 16% of the electorate in 2008, which was an increase from four years earlier. Obama won the demographic by 15 percentage points, 56% to 41%.

    On Thursday, Vice President Joe Biden made a campaign appearance in the state, expressing confidence in Democrats' chances there in November.

    "We think we have a real shot at winning the presidential race here in Arizona," Biden said at the event, which was part of a West Coast campaign swing for the vice president.

    Biden added the Obama reelection campaign was actively working to generate support in the state.

    "You're going to see organizers here," Biden said.

    Republicans have largely thrown cold water on the notion of a Democratic victory in Arizona. RNC Chairman Reince Priebus called the idea a "mirage" last week on a conference call with reporters.

    The ASU poll was conducted by telephone from 488 registered voters April 9-13. The sampling error was plus or minus 4.4 percentage points.
     
    #693     Apr 30, 2012
  4. http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=241696&perpage=6&pagenumber=1




    http://articles.businessinsider.com...a-electoral-map-electoral-votes#ixzz1tXVZgVG5


    Karl Rove's Early Electoral Map: OBAMA WINS



    Ever since Mitt Romney all but secured the Republican nomination, we were all waiting with bated breath.

    Wait no more. Karl Rove has finally put out his inaugural 2012 electoral map. And who's winning?

    Barack Obama. Here it is, in all its glory:

    You can see there how it breaks down: Right now, 284 votes are either solidly for Obama or "leaning Obama." Romney only has 172 solidly in his grasp or "leaning" toward him. The remaining 82 electoral votes are toss-ups.

    What does this mean? Well, first, that Romney has some catching up to do given the gravity of the map he's up against. According to this map, even if Romney wins all the toss-up states of Iowa, Missouri, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina and Florida — which could be done — he still wouldn't beat Obama.

    He would also need to take away some of the states currently leaning Obama. The easiest way to do that would be one of Michigan, Ohio or Pennsylvania.

    Basically, what this boils down to: Romney NEEDS to win both Florida and one of Michigan, Ohio or Pennsylvania to win this election.
     
    #694     Apr 30, 2012
  5. But that's the case every election. Whoever wins Florida and Ohio wins. How is this any different?

    Romney can secure one of the must wins with his VP pick. Rubio would probably lock up Florida. Portman would probably lock up Ohio. Christie might lock up both plus put Pennsylvania and NJ into play.
     
    #695     Apr 30, 2012
  6. jem

    jem

    yes ricter we did this already... and when you net them out there were still tax cuts.
     
    #696     Apr 30, 2012
  7. jem

    jem

    accurate and succinct.
     
    #697     Apr 30, 2012
  8. In 2004 Bush won Florida and Ohio but he also won Colorado,New Mexico,Nevada ,Virginia and North Carolina

    Even with all those states (which Mitt will not get) Bush only had 286 electoral votes
     
    #698     Apr 30, 2012
  9. Whatever benefit Romney might get for picking a FL or Ohio politician for VP is offset by the republican governors of those states.Obama couldn't ask for a bigger gift then Kasich and Scott.I cant wait to see if Romney campaigns with them or tries to avoid them when campaigning in those states




    http://saintpetersblog.com/2011/06/...rick-scott-least-popular-governor-in-america/




    It’s official: Poll says Rick Scott least popular Governor in America



    From Public Policy Polling: Rick Scott was already tied with John Kasich as the least popular Governor in the country in PPP’s polling but now he has that designation all to himself. 59% of voters disapprove of Scott, up from 55% when PPP last polled the state in March. Only 33% think Scott’s doing a good job.

    Scott’s numbers with Democrats are pretty much identical to where they were on the last poll. His standing with Republicans has actually improved a little bit, from 57/27 in March to now 63/30. Where he’s really seeing a decline is with independents. He was already unpopular with them at a 31/54 approval spread but his numbers with them are even worse now at 27/64.
     
    #699     Apr 30, 2012
  10. jem

    jem

    I read that due to redistricting Bush would have gotten more with todays numbers than he did when he won.
     
    #700     Apr 30, 2012