Romney Looks Like the Next Pres

PHOENIX TRADING · Oct 21, 2012

bush senior lost because of his stupid promise "no new taxes".
The problem with that was :
He promised something he knew wasn't his decision and I knew it.
only a fool does that.

I voted for the guy who was worried about a 4 trillion dollar debt... so where are we now, oh about 400% of that.

Has our wealth grown to 400% since then too?

wake up liberals and republicans govt spending is out of control.

jem · Oct 21, 2012

Quote from PHOENIX TRADING:

bush senior lost because of his stupid promise "no new taxes".
The problem with that was :
He promised something he knew wasn't his decision and I knew it.
only a fool does that.

I voted for the guy who was worried about a 4 trillion dollar debt... so where are we now, oh about 400% of that.

Has our wealth grown to 400% since then too?

wake up liberals and republicans govt spending is out of control.
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agreed

jem · Oct 21, 2012

New Democrat Poll in Ohio has Obama up by one..
But, they say Romney has a 7 point lead with Is and is more unified with Rs.

Which means Romney up by 4 to 7 or more.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_OH_1020.pdf

Raleigh, N.C. â PPP's newest Ohio poll finds Barack Obama leading Mitt Romney 49-
48, down from a 51-46 advantage a week ago. Romney's closing the gap thanks to a lead
among independents (49/42) and because the Republican base is continuing to become
more unified around him with 90% of GOP partisans now saying they'll support him
compared to 85% a week ago. Ohio voters think Obama won the debate this week 48-39,
but that doesn't seem to extend to more people voting for him

jem · Oct 21, 2012

gravis research has this in Ohio. Romney up by 20 with Independents in Ohio.

http://www.gravispolls.com/2012/10/gravis-ohio-poll-shows.html

Both sides are doing well to consolidate their bases in Ohio. 87 percent of Democrats say they will vote for President Obama and 92 percent of Republicans say they will vote for Governor Romney if the election were held today. Governor Romney leads with independents 52 to 33 percent.

They call the race a tie.

their sample is

D41/ R32 / I27

and remember in the last race the turnout was 2004 - even, 2008 DE plus 7.

pspr · Oct 21, 2012

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gravis research has this in Ohio. Romney up by 20 with Independents in Ohio.

http://www.gravispolls.com/2012/10/gravis-ohio-poll-shows.html

Both sides are doing well to consolidate their bases in Ohio. 87 percent of Democrats say they will vote for President Obama and 92 percent of Republicans say they will vote for Governor Romney if the election were held today. Governor Romney leads with independents 52 to 33 percent.
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And they had to over sample Dems 41 to 32 to get to a tossup. Amazing.

jem · Oct 21, 2012

I added to my post as you were posting.
But we are noticing the same thing.

If nothing changes with independents in Ohio.
We can put it in the Romney column.

bigarrow · Oct 21, 2012

From reading jem and pspr Romney is going to win in a record breaking landslide victory. If only there was someway of making money from this valuable information. I can't believe Obama hasn't conceded the election.

PHOENIX TRADING · Oct 21, 2012

Quote from bigarrow:

From reading jem and pspr Romney is going to win in a record breaking landslide victory. If only there was someway of making money from this valuable information. I can't believe Obama hasn't conceded the election.
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I can't believe it either , Benghazi-gate is as bad as it can get. He should resign.

jem · Oct 21, 2012

Quote from bigarrow:

From reading jem and pspr Romney is going to win in a record breaking landslide victory. If only there was someway of making money from this valuable information. I can't believe Obama hasn't conceded the election.
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we will see who has been right in just a few weeks.
if Romney is holding a 20 point lead in Ohio with Independents in the polls the day before the election... it will be an absolute blowout... like the one you would expect based on Obama's performance.

AK Forty Seven · Oct 21, 2012

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http://hotair.com/archives/2012/10/20/when-desperation-strikes-incumbents/

When desperation strikes incumbents
POSTED AT 8:31 AM ON OCTOBER 20, 2012 BY ED MORRISSEY

Itâs been a while since weâve had an incumbent President lose an election. In fact, it was 20 years ago, when George H. W. Bush lost in a three-way fight to Bill Clinton. What made that election remarkable was that Bush had enjoyed some of the best-ever job approval ratings of any modern American President just a little over a year earlier, into the 80s â unthinkable these days for anyone, Republican or Democrat. Bush, a decorated veteran of World War II and a longtime player in diplomacy and national security, lost the election to an upstart Governor when the economy turned somewhat sour.

I recall the moment when I realized for the first time â not feared, but realized â that Bush would lose the election. Bush was campaigning in Michigan at the end of October, trying to whip some energy back into his campaign in the home stretch, a task that would fall far short just a few days later. Then-Governor John Engler told the Warren, MI crowd that the Bush campaign was âhotâ and the Democrats âdead in the water,â which was merely the kind of fantasy all campaigns spin toward the end.

Bush then spoke, and went after Clinton and Al Gore in a personal, demeaning way Iâd not heard from the President before then:

At a midday GOP rally at Macomb Community College, the president unleashed a rhetorical fusillade on Bill Clinton and running mate Sen. Albert Gore Jr., attacking their fitness for office, their character and charging, âMy dog Millie knows more about foreign policy than these two bozos.â

In particular, Bush targeted Gore, whom he now calls âOzone Man,â or just plain âOzone.â âYou know why I call him Ozone Man?â Bush said. âThis guy is so far out in the environmental extreme, weâll be up to our neck in owls and outta work for every American. He is way out, far out, man.â

When I heard that, I thought to myself, âWhat President talks like that?â Part of the advantage the office gives an incumbent is its gravitas. Bushâs own history as a diplomat, intelligence executive, and war hero gave him plenty more of that. Bush abandoned that in the final week in schoolyard name-calling. Thatâs not why Bush lost the election, of course. It was, however, the moment that I knew heâd lost it â and was pretty sure he knew he was losing, too.

Keep that in mind when you hear Barack Obama on the stump talking about âRomnesia.â Those elementary-school attacks using peopleâs names are something one usually farms out to surrogates (and is pretty lame regardless). That comes with the grasping of âbinders,â literally grasping in Joe Bidenâs case (and literally literally, not Bidenesque âliterallyâ), as a major campaign theme. When the President himself starts using attacks like this, it speaks to his desperation more than his opponentâs positions. It adds more heft to the argument that the first debate wasnât a fluke, but demonstrated an actual gap in presidential stature between the two men.
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