Romney Looks Like the Next Pres

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jem, Apr 13, 2012.

  1. pspr

    pspr

    Oh, I thought you said, '...the next dickeater.' :D
     
    #2321     Sep 18, 2012
  2. Ouch! Good one AK. Do you do research for a living? How in the heck do you find all these old charts? This is great.

    Of course everyone loves the charts that show things in their favor. But, to see so much evidence and still try to refute is a bit odd.
     
    #2322     Sep 18, 2012
  3. jem

    jem

    wrong... that b.s. sort of worked on me a few months ago, but I have done some research.

    the 2010 electorate... was D 35 / I 30 / R 35.

    So the question becomes... what turnout are you expecting now?
    If you expect a balanced turnout you should have a balanced sample of likely voters.

    so your poll should sample at D 35/ I 30 / R 35.

    If you prefer slanted polls then you should be expecting a slanted turnout.

    Its very simple really.
     
    #2323     Sep 18, 2012
  4. pspr

    pspr

    That's where you lose ricter.
     
    #2324     Sep 18, 2012
  5. Kerry got 59 million votes in 04

    Obama got 69 million votes 08



    Dems got 42 million House votes in 06

    Dems got 38 million House votes in 2010


    You can not use non presidential election numbers to predict a presidential election turn out because dems have much lower turn out in non presidential election years.Its that simple really
     
    #2325     Sep 18, 2012
  6. jem

    jem

    1. so what were the R turnouts like in those same races... I supect 2010 shows just how motivated Rs were then and they are even more motivated now.

    2. this is like trading with analogs... you are trying to make your best guess at a future pattern so you look at previous ones and make adjustments.

    you prefer 2008 as your analog... but I know that the dems have lost millions of registered voters... and the polls show that dems have low enthusiam.

    As of now, I am pretty sure Rs are going to come out in very strong numbers.

    so I think the electorate will be more like 42 R and 35 D... but for the sake of good polling concepts I choose to use the 2010 electorate as my analog.
     
    #2326     Sep 18, 2012
  7. Actually, I agree with your premise. Is there anyone here who actually does polling? My understanding is that they make 10,000 calls for example, randomly, and ask questions. How has that changed over the years? I really don't know. Of course we can call around the Stanford zip code, and then the Berkley zip code, and try to skew the results. Is that what you're saying? When I googled random sampling, I saw what seemed to be a straight forward explanation, much as from college. Is there something you think that can help Biased Pollsters get the results they are trying to skew? And, how does coming up with skewed polls help the pollsters. Seems like it would be bad for business.
     
    #2327     Sep 18, 2012


  8. Bush got 62 million votes in 04

    McCain got 59 million votes 08



    R's got 35 million House votes in 06

    R's got 44 million House votes in 2010
     
    #2328     Sep 18, 2012

  9. Yes but you have to compare apples to apples/ presidential election turn out to presidential election turn out not presidential election turn out to mid terms turn out
     
    #2329     Sep 18, 2012

  10. So if Obama wins will you admit that your line of thinking was wrong and that Rasmussen is a garbage pollster ?
     
    #2330     Sep 18, 2012