Romney Looks Like the Next Pres

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jem, Apr 13, 2012.

  1. jem

    jem

    in other words you prefer polls which slant to the dems by 15-20 percent more than they should --- or more.
     
    #1961     Aug 21, 2012
  2. Not when the 2010 elections was not a presidential election and democrats always have lower turnout in non presidential elections
     
    #1962     Aug 21, 2012

  3. If these are the results, yes




    NBC/WSJ 2008 presidential polls

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    #1963     Aug 21, 2012
  4. Do you honestly believe that, Jem? Do you really think there is such a conspiracy existing in the U.S. that would allow such a variance to go unchecked? I really can't believe that.

    Sure, liberal media, sure, more Dems than Rep's, but to think there is an actual 15-20% liberal slant in all the polls, is just disingenuous. IMO, of course.
     
    #1964     Aug 21, 2012
  5. jem

    jem

    Ok lets tackle this.

    On these party ID polls... they tend to use old data and registration data... instead of current polling of properly constructed samples.

    For instance lets start with the top of your list.

    ARG.


    http://www.mysterypollster.com/main/2005/03/disclosing_part_4.html


    It is important to note that what ARG does, as explained above, is very different from the way other pollsters ask about party ID. ARG asks about party registration on some states, party identification in others and then combines the two results into a single variable. Whatever the merits of this approach, the will results not be comparable to those of other polling organizations.







     
    #1965     Aug 21, 2012
  6. When they say "adults" - does that mean they are not including 18 year olds? I know the age of majority, but just wondered why the caveat.

    AK, have you checked into this information? Your thoughts?
     
    #1966     Aug 21, 2012
  7. jem

    jem


    its not a conspiracy its a fact.

    the 2010 election came in with evenly split electorate between Dems and Republicans.

    so when a survey comes back slanted to the dem by 7 to 19 points ... my algo adjusts it to a balanced sample.

    basic common sense.
     
    #1967     Aug 21, 2012
  8. jem

    jem

    you realize how stupid this is..

    you have poll which slanted to Obama ahead of time.

    then we have the financial crisis...
    McCain sells out his party... along with tons of other Republicans..
    so the R voters don't show... result.. slanted poll gets lucky.


     
    #1968     Aug 21, 2012
  9. pspr

    pspr

    What time is it where you are, MrBill. Maybe around 2 A.M. or later?
     
    #1969     Aug 21, 2012

  10. LOL !!! :D :D :D
     
    #1970     Aug 21, 2012