Romney Looks Like the Next Pres

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jem, Apr 13, 2012.





  1. Again jem,that is the result of 1 poll,I repeat 1 poll,the day before the election.The polls in the survey were correct within 1.37 % so most of that polls did well in that survey



    This is Rasmussens results with a sample of over 100 polls ,3 weeks from an election

    http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytime...rate-quinnipiac-surveyusa-performed-strongly/



    Rasmussen Polls Were Biased and Inaccurate




    Every election cycle has its winners and losers: not just the among the candidates, but also the pollsters.

    On Tuesday, polls conducted by the firm Rasmussen Reports — which released more than 100 surveys in the final three weeks of the campaign, including some commissioned under a subsidiary on behalf of Fox News — badly missed the margin in many states, and also exhibited a considerable bias toward Republican candidates.


    The 105 polls released in Senate and gubernatorial races by Rasmussen Reports and its subsidiary, Pulse Opinion Research, missed the final margin between the candidates by 5.8 points, a considerably higher figure than that achieved by most other pollsters. Some 13 of its polls missed by 10 or more points, including one in the Hawaii Senate race that missed the final margin between the candidates by 40 points, the largest error ever recorded in a general election in FiveThirtyEight’s database, which includes all polls conducted since 1998.













    This is a sample of Rasmussens accuracy months before an election.In December Intrade and most polls had Romney winning the GOP nomination,Rasmussen had Newt by +21


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    #1541     Jul 17, 2012
  2. jem

    jem

    JEM 3 most recent polls.


    Rasmussen Tracking Romney +3
    Gallup Tracking Obama +2
    McClatchy/Marist Obama +2
     
    #1542     Jul 17, 2012
  3. Your response is to argue their one good poll result against their numerous bad poll results. Reminds me of snake oil stock system sellers
     
    #1543     Jul 17, 2012

  4. I do give them credit for not having Romney + 21 like they had newt
     
    #1544     Jul 17, 2012
  5. jem

    jem

    From that conservative group the Huffington Post.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/11/obama-romney-polls-july_n_1665876.html

    "One caution regarding the national polls: Most are reporting results among all registered voters and have not yet attempted to narrow their samples to those Americans most likely to vote. Historically, polls of "likely voters" are a few points more Republican than those of all registered voters, a pattern that also appears in the latest crop of national polls.


    The two pollsters that currently screen for likely voters both give Romney a narrow advantage. Moreover, other surveys have found greater engagement in and enthusiasm about the election among Republicans. So when pollsters do start narrowing to likely voters, the shift will likely boost Romney slightly."
     
    #1545     Jul 17, 2012
  6. jem

    jem

    Thesis confirmed. They do switch to more accurate samples.

    So AK you going to argue with the Huffington Post or you can to acknowledge your polls are off.

    Also note... many of AK rigged polls are not even limiting their samples to registered voters yet.
     
    #1546     Jul 17, 2012

  7. IMO Rasmussen is off the most as they usually are and Intrade is most accurate





    Rasmussen -Newt +21


    RCP average -Newt +6


    Intrade -Romney+12


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    #1547     Jul 17, 2012
  8. jem

    jem

    you must be on vacation and using a spam bot to post that crap again.

    HuffPo just told you your polls will change their samples to resemble Rasmuessen.

     
    #1548     Jul 17, 2012
  9. jem

    jem

    I will repost this.. if you are going to repost your crap.
    Who do you think those two pollsters are?

    Could they be in the JEM honest poll group?
    They were...
    Rasmuessen and Gallup.

     
    #1549     Jul 17, 2012

  10. No they wont jem,other polls dont do this


    http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytime...rate-quinnipiac-surveyusa-performed-strongly/





    Rasmussen’s polls have come under heavy criticism throughout this election cycle, including from FiveThirtyEight. We have critiqued the firm for its cavalier attitude toward polling convention. Rasmussen, for instance, generally conducts all of its interviews during a single, 4-hour window; speaks with the first person it reaches on the phone rather than using a random selection process; does not call cellphones; does not call back respondents whom it misses initially; and uses a computer script rather than live interviewers to conduct its surveys. These are cost-saving measures which contribute to very low response rates and may lead to biased samples.

    Rasmussen also weights their surveys based on preordained assumptions about the party identification of voters in each state, a relatively unusual practice that many polling firms consider dubious
     
    #1550     Jul 17, 2012