"Rogue" traders who made billions...?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by pinetboltz, Sep 22, 2017.

  1. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    Hm, I was able to read it without problem, it is a rather long article with psychology and so on. Try this:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=rog...UHMaGmQGr-5PoCw&start=0&sa=N&biw=1093&bih=526

    The link is the 7th from the top, when you click on it, it should open up without a paywall. I don't know why but it works...

    Edit: This trick worked for the first time only. I don't know why, maybe they let you access the website from the same IP only once...

    Edit2: Another way to read it:

    1. type into Chrome "rogue traders ebook" hit enter
    2. From the list, #7 is the link and it opens without paywall.
     
    Last edited: Sep 22, 2017
    #11     Sep 22, 2017
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  2. IamBlaze

    IamBlaze

    Trust me, you only become "Rogue" if you lose money. If you bet the whole market cap of your bank and double it, well, for the lack of a better word, you're a hero, a legend.
     
    #12     Sep 22, 2017
  3. pinetboltz

    pinetboltz

    lol, ok point taken -- "rogue" or "legit", am just curious to know if there are any stories of bank traders who made billions by successively betting on 1 single trend (averaging up all the way)?
     
    #13     Sep 22, 2017
  4. sle

    sle

    What do you actually know about that trade besides the number?
     
    #14     Sep 22, 2017
  5. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    I have tried to find such, but so far no success. If you read the FT article linked earlier, most of these traders started out with a small loss and it went bigger and bigger from there. When you are profitable you don't start to access founds that doesn't belong to you, you only do that out of desperation.

    But again, if profitable rogues were discovered they were quickly and quietly stopped, nobody wants to advertise that they don't keep a tight shop...
     
    #15     Sep 22, 2017
  6. d08

    d08

    The institution would never admit the trades were "rogue" because that would cause massive problems for them. They do their best to hide that fact and celebrate the profits. Traders only become rogue once the bank/institution can't hide losses any longer.
     
    #16     Sep 22, 2017


  7. Gotta watch out for those "rouge" traders. Also for the rogue traders. There is a difference.

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    #17     Sep 22, 2017
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  8. ironchef

    ironchef

    After they made billions for their bank, the bank removed "Rogue" from their title and called them Chief Investment Officer.

    So, you will read about CIO that made billions in the press.
     
    #18     Sep 22, 2017
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  9. pinetboltz

    pinetboltz

    any specific stories about cowboy traders who put on 1 great futures trade that worked, kind of like the opposite of what the rogue losing traders did? (not credit derivatives a la housing crisis with $10mm+ upfront premium as minimum entry to play etc, just vanilla futures)

    just curious because ppl always say to learn from mistakes/ try to flip the script on losing trades observed, and it seems like if a massive amt can be lost by averaging down on a strong trend within a pretty short period of time, then similarly it should be possible that a considerable amt is made by averaging up on a strong trend

    some specific stories would be quite educational
     
    #19     Sep 23, 2017
  10. How nice, some guys recieve the Nobel prize, while other guys make billions doubling down.
     
    #20     Sep 23, 2017