Rockets fired at Iraqi military base housing US troops

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  1. dealmaker

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    FM Wang Yi just had a phonecall with Russian FM Lavrov. FM Wang Yi said military adventurism is unacceptable. He called on Iraq's sovereignty respected, UN Charter observed & regional peace maintained. China&Russia will continue to uphold international justice & peace.
     
    #21     Jan 5, 2020
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  2. IAS_LLC

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    Highly doubt it. The efficacy of hypersonic missiles is overblown , much like AI/ML. You can still detect and shoot down hypersonic missiles...they aren't magical, and have the IR signature akin to the surface of the sun
     
    #22     Jan 5, 2020
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  3. Turveyd

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    When China and Russia are the good guys, you've got to be worried!!
     
    #23     Jan 5, 2020
  4. Turveyd

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    Mach 20, detected and 3seconds later they've went straight though the ship, so it depends on how fast there going, but they are going to have to reenter which will slow them down rapidly and generate a lot of heat.

    Definately can't dodge defenses as claimed, going to fast to turn much at all.

    Only Russia (they'll supply China) and likely America secretly have this and they'll be expensive so not a worry unless fighting 1 of those 3, then it's game over anyway man!!
     
    #24     Jan 5, 2020
  5. IAS_LLC

    IAS_LLC

    Yeah, if you detect anything 3 seconds before impact you're probably in trouble....but there are constellations of satellites, ground base radar arrays, and AWACs that detect the launches of these things (not to mention the sensors on the ship itself). A HGV launch is no different than a ballistic missile launch....it will be detected.....early.

    Also, it wont be going mach 20 once its in thick atmosphere. It it will be going fast...but a much smaller fraction.
     
    #25     Jan 5, 2020
  6. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    They say they are highly maneuverable in the atmosphere. What can hit something going Mach 5 plus? A .000001 degree deflection of a control surface at that speed would render any firing solution achieved by anything that exists now (say a Patriot) useless and unrecoverable in a millisecond. From what I've read at least, yeah the heat signature is certainly there, but its like oh well... here it comes. Fire a 1/2 dozen of these things at a carrier battle group and one would have to believe the results would be debilitating. I mean even some of Saddams scuds slipped by our Patriots, and those things ran on vacuum tubes.
    But again, we can only go by what we read.
     
    #26     Jan 5, 2020
  7. notagain

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    #27     Jan 5, 2020
  8. IAS_LLC

    IAS_LLC

    They say?

    1. You can intercept something going faster than the interceptor. Case and point... people who walk into oncoming traffic.

    2. You wouldn't use a Patriot to intercept one of these. You would use a THAAD , which goes mach 8.1 per Wikipedia, if on land, or an sm-3 if at sea...or something else you or I don't even know exists.

    3. Interceptors are designed to outmaneuver their target. The rule of thumb is a 3:1 maneuver advantage for the interceptor if simplistic intercept algorithms are used.
     
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    #28     Jan 5, 2020
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  9. IAS_LLC

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    Also...that saddam scud that snuck through was due to a pretty embarrassing software error related to clock drift and rounding error in the fire control radar. There are good articles out there about it
     
    #29     Jan 5, 2020
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