Robinhood User Says $300,000 Restored From Hack, Then Taken Back

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by ajacobson, Dec 23, 2020.

  1. Bad_Badness

    Bad_Badness

    The losses were in FITBIT Options. How would the hackers benefit from that MORE than transferring out the dollars directly? Seems like the person lost, and was claiming it was stolen. Would that be wire fraud?
     
    #11     Dec 23, 2020
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  2. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Buuuuuuul-sh*t
     
    #12     Dec 23, 2020
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  3. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Easy.
    You get in someone's account and find some high spread thinly traded options... and you take the other end of the trade be it puts or calls.

    Was it Fitbit? I didn't read all the details but I thought Google bought them. If that deal is still on, then the stock is going to be in a relative flatline until the deal closes. Perfect opportunity.
     
    #13     Dec 23, 2020
  4. Bad_Badness

    Bad_Badness

    I think Bloomberg said it was Fitbit. Then if you are on the other side, then you got to get your money out which should not be to hard, given how slow this train wreck occurred.
     
    #14     Dec 23, 2020
  5. the rookie Robinhood thought it could compete with those masters who have been in this business for years like Schwab, TD, Etrade, Morgan Stanley, GS, Merrill, IB,...

    from the SEC charge: "As the SEC’s order finds, one of Robinhood’s selling points to customers was that trading was “commission free,” but due in large part to its unusually high payment for order flow rates, Robinhood customers’ orders were executed at prices that were inferior to other brokers’ prices".

    "Despite this, according to the SEC’s order, Robinhood falsely claimed in a website FAQ between October 2018 and June 2019 that its execution quality matched or beat that of its competitors. The order finds that Robinhood provided inferior trade prices that in aggregate deprived customers of $34.1 million even after taking into account the savings from not paying a commission. Robinhood made these false and misleading statements during the time in which it was growing rapidly".

    https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2020-321
     
    #15     Dec 24, 2020
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  6. guru

    guru


    The article is about options, while the SEC found problems with pricing stocks, not options.
     
    Last edited: Dec 24, 2020
    #16     Dec 24, 2020
  7. guru

    guru

    #17     Dec 24, 2020
  8. I use Market Orders with options all the time.
     
    #18     Dec 24, 2020
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  9. fargone

    fargone

    It got shipped and then shipped back. 2020 is so wild
     
    #19     Dec 24, 2020
  10. guru

    guru


    Now try this on illiquid options with very wide spreads :)
     
    #20     Dec 24, 2020