Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is running for president.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tony Stark, Apr 5, 2023.

  1. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    He probably did...and some have argued Biden ran a more progressive campaign than even Bernie did.....let's not forget on the very real tailwind fears of a fascist's reelection either.

    Or have we forgotten the "most progressive campaign since FDR" the MSM messaging ran for a New York minute?
     
    #51     Jun 8, 2023
  2. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    1.They lost The House

    2.The Dems won the Senate and Gov races largely due to candidates that are considered more progressive than Biden.Warnock,Fetterman,Kelly,Whitmer etc are far more acceptable to progs than Biden.I would vote for any of those 4.
     
    #52     Jun 8, 2023
  3. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    1. Barely, it was the best mid-term result for a sitting President in 100 years - compare that to Obama's first mid-term election, the 'shellacking'. Should Obama have stepped down after the first term for it?

    2. Democrats of all types got elected because of abortion, better progressive candidates during Obama's term (remember Feingold) lost. Fetterman and Warnock were up against weak MAGA candidates as well.
     
    #53     Jun 8, 2023
  4. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    They did when he made promises like these.

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    #54     Jun 8, 2023
  5. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Obamas net approval rating was 18 points higher than Bidens at this point in his first term.30% of democrat voters didn't say they would prefer a nut like RFK or Williamson as president rather than Obama.

    If Dems would have went with Conner Lamb in PA he likely would have lost.IF AZ had went with another Senima type they would have lost.(She turned independent because she knows it).Walker was weak but GA is still mostly a red state.If they had went with a moderate they would have lost imo.
     
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    #55     Jun 8, 2023
  6. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


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    #56     Jun 8, 2023
  7. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

  8. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Very normal for incumbents, Biden wins because the Republican brand is in the toilet after the abortion ruling. It's simple as that, Biden doesn't have to be popular, his opponent has to be unpopular enough and either Desantis or Trump fits that role perfectly.
     
    #58     Jun 8, 2023
  9. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Incumbents who lose.

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    Incumbents who win are usually net positive right now


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    We'll know with some pretty good odds next year at the 6 month before the election point.No president who had a disapproval higher than approval rating at that point has won reelection since polling begin.
     
    #59     Jun 8, 2023
  10. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    The abortion issue is losing strength.We know Biden and Dems will not make abortion legal if Biden wins in 2024,especially since they likely wont have the Senate or The House. It doesn't help that Biden has broken most of his 2020 campaign promises and millions of dems don't believe anything that comes out of his mouth and he says he wouldn't add Justices to the court even if he could.
     
    #60     Jun 8, 2023