Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is running for president.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tony Stark, Apr 5, 2023.

  1. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    i don't get you man. Your hate is blinding you
     
    #21     Jun 7, 2023
  2. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Ive said multiple times I will still support progressive democrats.RFK is a nut but on economic policy he is as progressive as Bernie and Warren,same with Williamson.Since I dont think they will win the dem primary the plan is to vote for West,but if a progressive pulls the colossal upset and take out Biden I will vote for them.Even if its a nut like RFK or someone I can hardly take serious like Williamson.

    I do hate moderate democrats will do anything to stop them short of voting republican.
     
    #22     Jun 7, 2023
  3. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    RFK is a worse alternative to Biden by every metric tho?
     
    #23     Jun 7, 2023
  4. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    No

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    #24     Jun 7, 2023
  5. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    dude.... antivaxxer/antiscience, antiUkraine aide, bullshit rightwing economic policy disguised in fake populism.. . need I go on?
     
    #25     Jun 7, 2023
  6. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

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    Kennedy's rhetoric often utilizes conspiracy theories – he expressed scepticism about the COVID-19 pandemic, contending that it served to benefit billionaires; according to Kennedy, the pandemic resulted in a "$4.4 trillion shift in wealth from the American middle class to this new oligarchy that we created — 500 new billionaires with the lockdowns, and the billionaires that we already had increased their wealth by 30%". Kennedy also stated that the American government is dominated by corporate power; he accused the Environmental Protection Agency of being run by the "oil industry, the coal industry and the pesticide industry", and described the Food and Drug Administration as overly dominated by "Big Pharma".[149]

    Additionally, he has stated his belief that "systematic" erosion of the middle class is taking place, remarking in a 2023 interview with UnHerd that American politicians have "been systematically hollowing out the American middle class, and printing money to make billionaires richer". He claimed that the financial industry and the military–industrial complex are funded at the expense of the American middle class.[149] Kennedy sees a "vibrant middle class" as the backbone of the economy and stated that the economy has deteriorated because the middle class has become poorer.[150] In an interview with Andrew Serwer, Kennedy remarked that the gap between rich and poor in the United States had become too great and said, "the very wealthy people should pay more taxes and corporations".
    He also expressed his support for the wealth tax plan of Massachusetts senator Elizabeth Warren, which would impose an annual tax of 2% on every dollar of a household's net worth over $50 million and a tax of 6% on every dollar of net worth over $1 billion.[151]


    Describing himself as "arguably the leading environmentalist in the country", Kennedy promotes populist and anti-establishment environmental policies, claiming that the climate crisis was hijacked by "Bill Gates and the World Economic Forum and the billionaire boys' club in Davos". Kennedy expressed his support for regenerative farming and stated that the priority of environmentalists should be to tackle the "carbon industry". He described the current society and economy as unsustainable and based on a "longtime deadly addiction to coal and oil" and contended that the current economic system rewards pollution; in 2020, Kennedy stated: "Right now, we have a market that is governed by rules that were written by the carbon incumbents to reward the dirtiest, filthiest, most poisonous, most toxic, most war-mongering fields from hell, rather than the cheap, clean, green, wholesome and patriotic fields from heaven." He also stated his support for the Green New Deal resolution of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and announced his plans to implement it.[154] Kennedy spoke out against geoengineering, claiming that geoengineering solutions are an attempt by big business to profit from climate change. Despite his reputation as environmentalist, he voiced his support for agrarian movements, saying in 2023: "If we want to have democracy, we need a broad ownership of our land by a wide variety of yeoman farmers, each with a stake in our system."[citation needed] He is also against nuclear energy, considering it too expensive and too unsafe. Kennedy believes that nuclear energy is a profit-making venture and claims that this solution is promoted by corporate lobbyists rather than environmental activists, stating in a 2023 interview, "it's not hippies in tie-dyed T-shirts who are saying it's dangerous; it's guys on Wall Street with suits and ties".[149]

    Throughout the presidency of George W. Bush, Kennedy was a persistent critic of Bush's environmental and energy policies. He accused Bush of defunding and corrupting federal science projects.[155]

    Kennedy was also critical of Bush's 2003 hydrogen car initiative,[156] arguing that it was a gift to the fossil fuel industry disguised as a green automobile.[157]

    In 2003, Kennedy wrote an article in Rolling Stone about Bush's environmental record,[158] which he subsequently expanded into a New York Times bestselling book.[159] His opposition to the environmental policies of the Bush administration earned him recognition as one of Rolling Stone's "100 Agents of Change" on April 2, 2009.[160][161]

    During an October 2012 interview with Politico, Kennedy called on environmentalists to direct their dissatisfaction towards the U.S. Congress rather than President Barack Obama, reasoning that Obama "didn't deliver" due to having a partisan U.S. Congress "like we haven't seen before in American history".[162] He also accused politicians who failed to act on climate change policy as serving special interests and selling out the public trust.
    He accused Charles and David Koch, the owners of Koch Industries, Inc., the nation's largest privately owned oil company, of subverting democracy and for "making themselves billionaires by impoverishing the rest of us".[163] Kennedy has spoken of the Koch Brothers as leading "the apocalyptical forces of Ignorance and Greed".[164]

    During the 2014 People's Climate March, Kennedy said, "American politics is driven by two forces: One is intensity, and the other is money. The Koch brothers have all the money. They're putting $300 million this year into their efforts to stop the climate bill. And the only thing we have in our power is people power, and that's why we need to put this demonstration on the street".[165]
     
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    #26     Jun 7, 2023
  7. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Just listen to him...his takes are indistinguishable from libertertarian lol (timestamped to him...some of the hosts' commentary is insufferable tho some is of value). That's worse than Biden's spoken (albeit perhaps not active) takes.

     
    #27     Jun 7, 2023
  8. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Fighting the rich for the middle class and poor is #1 for me,Biden has done nothing on that issue.Never fought to reverse Trumps tax cuts(Both Clinton and Obama increased taxes after their predecessors tax cuts and got millions of poor and middle class healthcare),nothing on healthcare,minimum wage,free college etc.His build back better and infrastructure deals gave hundreds of billions or trillions to corporations.Biden fucks the poor like he just did with the debt ceiling deal.

    Although a nut on some issues RFK has never flip flopped on his core beliefs that the rich are fucking the middle class and poor in this country,thats enough for my vote as long as you aren't racist or discriminatory.

    RFK is not my first choice but if he is polling highest against Biden on primary voting day i will vote him.If its Williamson I will vote for her.If either pull off the upset against Biden Ill vote for them in the general.If its Biden Im voting for West.
     
    #28     Jun 7, 2023
  9. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    He really is a nut. I know somebody who has worked on a charity committee with him and comparisons to Dr Strangelove were made.

    There can never be a he is a nut, but, for me in a world where my kid is young and has her future ahead. The nuclear bomb button presser can't be short a few squirrels. Get a fucking candidate, this least-worst bullshit is wrong and just a continuation of the bad old ways.

    Jon Stewart, anybody who could actually win quite easily and is not a weirdo.

     
    #29     Jun 7, 2023
  10. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark



     
    #30     Jun 8, 2023