Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is running for president.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tony Stark, Apr 5, 2023.

  1. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    If you don't think there are progs that hate Biden so much they will vote Trump you are dead wrong.
     
    #201     Jun 23, 2023
  2. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    Rfk lost my vote with the school shooting position.He would have lost it with the Russia statement as well.Its Green Party/West for me.
     
    #202     Jun 23, 2023
  3. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    You don't have to approve of Trump,many just really hate Biden.On the night of Bidens pro police SOTU I was ready to vote Trump but settled on Green.The main reason being voting GOP sends the message to Dems they need to move right.Voting Green sends the message they need to move left.
     
    #203     Jun 23, 2023
  4. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    West's got a pretty non-interventionist (defacto pro-Russia) position though?
     
    #204     Jun 23, 2023
  5. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Of course there are progs like that, but they were DSA or Green Party members to start with, they were never Dems.
     
    #205     Jun 23, 2023
  6. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    I'm kind of curious what people you associate with that hate Biden more than Trump, sure some voted Trump because they hated Hillary after the primaries in '16, though in their defense had no history of a Trump presidency. Just pointing to the numbers that by approval numbers alone, I just don't see this being of significance.
     
    #206     Jun 23, 2023
  7. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    West isn't going to win.I just want my vote noted with the millions of other progs that if you nomniate someone like Biden we will be voting Green.
     
    #207     Jun 23, 2023
  8. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    Many people who volunteered and voted Biden in 2020.Climate people pissed about the fracking and drilling he promised he wouldn't allow,blacks pissed of over police reform and feel that even though Trump is racist his criminal justice reform is more than anything Biden has done,people pissed about college loans etc.

    Don't look at just the approval,look at disapproval,that is a sign of voter anger and enthusiasm to go out and vote against you.Biden currently has the highest disapproval at this point since Carter,even higher than Trump.
     
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    #208     Jun 23, 2023
  9. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Sure there's disappointment, but this reads like speculation. Though I'm not going to guess about your social circle and anecdotes.

    If I don't approve of a candidate, it means I disapprove, the choice is binary so I'm not sure what you're talking about. I suppose the "I don't know/indifferent" low info voters take a chunk out of that.
     
    #209     Jun 23, 2023
  10. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Disapproval is specifically asked.When somebody says they disapprove rather than don't know that person is likely go out and vote against you rather than just stay home.In 2019 I was posting that Trump was toast because of his net approval and disapproval.Biden's is even worst than Trumps,and unlike Trump Biden has to win by 4-7 points to win The EC.
     
    #210     Jun 23, 2023