RM's occasional market calls...

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Rearden Metal, Nov 8, 2010.


  1. I guess I can answer that one.
    I dropped 6.6% of my entire trading account on that trade, which was over a third of my 2014 YTD gains.
    Results notwithstanding, I actually still think it was a +EV trade going in.
     
    #791     Mar 4, 2014
  2. Blotto

    Blotto

    You must have missed my post yesterday, written for the benefit of those with no earthly business punting pork, but who might be tempted to try to be you for a day.

    You're an old pro and know the score - take the hit and move on. Sharia happens. :)
     
    #792     Mar 4, 2014
  3. Thanks much. Also IMO good move to realize the mistake and gtfo today. Arguably the best trades aren't the winners they are taking the loss before it does unforgivable damage to the account. You'll recover just fine.
     
    #793     Mar 4, 2014
  4. Agreed. The market dynamics at the time of entry pointed strongly to a drop to 105.5. Was a valid trade even though it turned out horribly.

    Still seems an overreaction to me, even taking the latest PED data into account, as the slaughter count for 2014 so far is down ~0.5% but market weights are up ~2.5%. This latest pricing is indicative of a fall of ~10% in supply!

    It would appear that the big ags players know something we don't...

    Rumour has it a few of the locals were positioned the wrong way today as well and felt some serious pain. Likely to be some unhappy people drowning their sorrows down on Wells tonight.
     
    #794     Mar 4, 2014
  5. Scaleout.Scalper

    Scaleout.Scalper Guest

    Lesson here is we never really know 100% the outcome of a trade, so there should never be thoughts of "full leverage" or "betting the ranch type of plays", no matter how good you are, and it's obvious RM is very good.

    Thanks for the journal and the calls, a rare gem.
     
    #795     Mar 5, 2014

  6. The synthetic went off well above limit yesterday and now another limit move... update?
     
    #796     Mar 5, 2014
  7. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    These things can go limit for days. There is no out unless you want to pay up for the synthetic which I'm sure is much higher now. These types of trades can literally relieve both a trader and his clearing firm of their assets.
     
    #797     Mar 5, 2014
  8. Yeah sucks, that's why I am asking as the synth was over a cent higher so there was no out on his add yesterday. Globex is just off limit again today at 114.6.
     
    #798     Mar 5, 2014
  9. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Wait a minute. Am I doing the math right. He is short 1000 cars? At $400 a cent and it's limit up at 3 cents higher. He dropped 1.2 million on the open?
     
    #799     Mar 5, 2014
  10. I don't think he ever mentioned size. RM stated he was down "five figures" in it yesterday on the first limit move (08.30 entry). He added, took some off and then re-entered short.
     
    #800     Mar 5, 2014