RM's occasional market calls...

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Rearden Metal, Nov 8, 2010.

  1. luisHK

    luisHK

    lol !!

    Levitation, watch out with the brazen driving , getting seriously maimed won't help much your trading.
     
    #331     Apr 23, 2013
  2. The mystery stock is ADT. Current price: $44.07

    This market call was brought to you by the letter 'H', and my massive ego.
     
    #332     Apr 23, 2013
  3. I'm especially long the Jan '14, 40 puts. Current price: $2.525
     
    #333     Apr 23, 2013
  4. Holy shit! Looks like my recommendation was taken VERY seriously: Over 700 of those Jan. '14 puts traded so far today, which is more than 10 times average. Now I'll feel pretty bad if this is the one time I finally F-ed it up.

    :eek: :cool:

    Edit: 881 traded and counting...
     
    #334     Apr 23, 2013
  5. I personally didn't hedge out the takeover risk with calls because that's just how I roll, but I suppose a more conservative trader would consider doing so.

    Question: Does AT&T have a history of buying up companies like ADT to expand? I can't think who else would want to buy them, because Comcast & Time Warner have already set up their own competing home security monitoring infrastructure, and wouldn't need to buy a ready made company.
     
    #335     Apr 23, 2013
  6. <b>Ten freakin' thousand</b> ADT Jan. 40 puts traded today, at a cost of like $2 1/2 mil??? Damn!

    For those who sincerely believe that ET is pikers-only territory, <b>you were wrong</b>, and I got your proof right here:

    <img src=http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=3786407>
     
    #336     Apr 23, 2013
  7. Cramer just lurrrrves the other side of our trade!

    "Cramer doesn't recommend speculating on takeovers unless the company's fundamentals are sound. In this case, he thinks ADT's fundamentals are excellent. He also likes that the company is cutting costs and paying down debt.

    ADT's stock currently pays a 1 percent dividend yield, but Cramer noted the company has $1.9 billion on its buyback authorization. Looking at current levels, he thinks ADT has much more room to run and considers it a buy, buy, buy!"

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/100472138
     
    #337     Apr 23, 2013
  8. Datradr

    Datradr

    Hey RM,

    Just curious, as you are a trader and understand that timing is extremely important...especially with options...

    what makes you so confident that this will breakdown this year and not 2 -5 years from now?

    What will be the catalyst that makes people realize the valuation may not be warranted at these levels?

    I dont know too much about the firm...so cant really add much...does your view on the overall market play into this? think a big pullback coming too?
     
    #338     Apr 23, 2013
  9. A lot of the gains in ADT shares (from 36 to 50) are likely the result of interest from Comcast, VZ and T. T has a central monitoring facility so they may be content to build. VZ has no central monitoring; only a smartphone app. Comcast also wants to expand in the space.

    The problem is paying 30x so the only deal that makes sense is a match with VZ. T is still smarting over the t-mobile debacle. VZ is probably the most likely buyer, but the (ADT) shares aren't acting like they're in play.
     
    #339     Apr 23, 2013
  10. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    I wouldn't buy a stock on spec that it will be taken out.

    A lot of these take out decisions are based on emotion and personal issues of the powers that be.
     
    #340     Apr 23, 2013