Risk Management for Swing Trading Stocks?

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by short&naked, May 13, 2009.

  1. It's not a matter of fear, but of RM.
    Those one time events can blow up trading accounts. You know that right? So far you have been lucky, but from what you have written I doubt that you have a pro take on RM.

    Your strategy has partly been based on luck. This is not enough for me. It works until it doesn't work.
     
    #11     May 15, 2009
  2. Ten years of trading luck. You are out of your f—king mind.

    I have traded with a detailed “Exit Plan” for 6 years to take care of the one time events you mention. I have specific methods to take on any cataclysmic event during automated trading. I pull the plug all the time. I no longer get hosed by the markets. I was talking about events the first 4 years of my automated trading.


    The terminology in this thread is extremely poor. You mixed up concepts in RM.

    Bad concept one: Using stops as an example of handling trade management. Stops are NOT a trade management concept. They are for handling NORMAL trading not huge gaps.

    Bad concept two: Telling traders they cannot swing trade because no stops can handle big events. That is why traders build an exit plan. The exit plan can handle “one” time events that are outside the scope of NORMAL trading.
     
    #12     May 15, 2009
  3. It is simple, use a 1:4 or better risk reward. Each unit risked should gain 4 units. This however takes balls, and many fuck it up. The problem if you risk a dollar for a trade, when right you must have the balls to hold on for a 4 profit. Otherwise do not use this. There are no silver bullets. (or we all be rich :)
     
    #13     May 16, 2009
  4. There is a short, naked, sweet and clear answer to this:). Take small non-systemic risks and diversify.
     
    #14     May 16, 2009
  5. I don't swing trade, but is there a reason you couldn't use collars?
     
    #15     May 18, 2009
  6. mikea59

    mikea59

    Buy puts for protection on long stock positions. A hard stop can get you taken out in a nano-second. Options have a little more staying power, so-to-speak. Strike price can be tested multiple times without you getting called out. Not a perfect solution, just another "option" (... see how I did that...)
     
    #16     May 18, 2009