Ridin' with Biden

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Cuddles, Jul 27, 2020.

  1. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    What I would rather not do is let The Democrat Party and future Democrat Presidents know they can govern like Biden and get elected or re elected.Rewarding Biden with a 2nd term is the worst thing that can happen.The Democrat Party and future Democrat Presidents will know all they have to do is pass to 2 humongous multi trillion dollar bills that takes from tax payers and give to businesses while breaking every promise and down right stabbing many of their voters in the back and they can still get elected or reelected.The Democrat Party will never keep their promises if they know they can break their promises and still win elections.The Democrat Party also needs to know cant win simply because the republicans are bad.If Biden losses that lets The Democrat Party know that their threat of you better vote for us or you will get a republican president, even one as repugnant as Trump,will not win them elections.


    Trump is indeed awful.We survived one term with him and we can survive another imo.
     
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    #2231     Feb 2, 2024
  2. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Trump will not bring back government assistance (freebies/handouts from the Pandemic) because he's not a believer in anything that would encourage a social welfare economy.

    America is a lot better than handouts but struggles to understand that "we as Americans" need to do our part too instead of relying on the government to subsidize us especially now that we're no longer in a Pandemic.

    Ok...I will admit the above may seem hypocritical to say considering I'm a U.S. veteran that uses one of the biggest social handouts in America...called the Veteran's Administration whenever I visit the states.

    Yet, I do reside in two socially progressive countries ranked in the top 20...Canada (#4) and France #16...


    It allows me to make a very good comparison to the United States (ranked #19...and falling in the ranking) while residing & citizen of all three countries. Trump is bad for America, bad for Democracy, bad for the U.S. Constitution but I'm not naive to misunderstand the truth of Democracy & U.S. Constitution when it comes to the history of it all...

    Resulting in my great grandfather (Lakota Sioux) not being considered a U.S. citizen in WWI in his own country (the United States of America)...on the land our ancestors lived on before colonialism while he fought in a War in Europe in WWI...a war he volunteered for because the U.S. was not able to draft non-citizens.

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    June 2, 1924

    The Indian Citizenship Act of 1924, (43 Stat. 253, enacted June 2, 1924) was an Act of the United States Congress that granted U.S. citizenship to the indigenous peoples of the United States.

    Imagine that, under Democracy...Indigenous Americans did not become citizens on their land until June 2nd, 1924.

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    My point is, Democracy is not perfect but Trump will destroy it including some of his strongest supporters wanting to get rid of the VA that fights for all those benefits given to those who served, fought, and died for America's Democracy & U.S. Constitution.

    Great grandfather, grandfather, my father, myself, and soon one of my sons.​

    Although I was not able to vote in 2016 due to illness (coma in November 2016), I was planning to vote against Trump because I knew that if there were a Trump in 1924 would have never allowed Indigenous Americans to become citizens of America in his efforts to Make America Great Again.

    Also, I'm not naive to know that the RICH became richer in the Pandemic while the POOR became poorer. Trump continues to exploit part of that equation...something he helped to create in 2020. :(:(:(

    wrbtrader
     
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    #2232     Feb 2, 2024
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  3. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    Polling has never ever ever come close to being that far off.
     
    #2233     Feb 2, 2024
  4. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    I agree.I know Trump is a liar,an awful human being and an awful president.My vote in 2024 and beyond is to let Democrats know they cant govern like Biden and win.I don't care what the republican does.
     
    #2234     Feb 2, 2024
  5. Atlantic

    Atlantic

    this is a very special situation

    9 months to go

    trump is in deep shit (and i don't mean the diaper)

    - and he is very sick

    wait and see
     
    #2235     Feb 2, 2024
  6. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    I have indeed considered voting for Trump or DeSantis,because the worst outcome is Biden being rewarded after all his lying,promise breaking,genocide,knives in the back etc.I decided not to vote republican since that sends to message to democrats that they lost because they were too far left.Voting for a prog sends the message I want to send,they lost because they are not left enough.


    I can vote for RFK (when he was running as a democrat) or Williamson in The Dem primary and still vote for Stein or West in the General.Since I have 2 votes against Biden(Primary and General) I will use both of them.

    When I say I am voting Stein or West its because I am not sure West will be on the ballot in my state.My plan is to vote for West if he is on the ballot in my state,and Stein if he is not as I know The Green Party will be on the ballot.

    I hope that cleared up your confusion.
     
    #2236     Feb 2, 2024
  7. Rams Fan

    Rams Fan

    I understand. And if Trump somehow is elected, we will never have to worry about another Democrat holding the office of the Presidency ever again.

    No, not by a long shot and this really is an odd turn for you to have taken since the 2020 election.

    The worst thing that can happen is to reward Trump with another term so he can succeed at dismantling American democracy, which he tried to do but failed at the end of his first term.

    He will not fail if given a second chance, because now he will have a majority of the GOP establishment backing his autocratic pu(t)sh.

    This is such a stark change from your former persona I wonder if your account hasn't been sold to an ElonMuskaTear.
     
    #2237     Feb 2, 2024
  8. Rams Fan

    Rams Fan

    This is a really bad take.

    You want to punish the Democrats because you don't like their policies, but you don't care if the GOP tosses out free and fair elections forever?

    Bad take.
     
    #2238     Feb 2, 2024
  9. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Even a very special situation isnt going to have polling off by 30-50 points.

    It should be clear by now that Trump voters will stick with him through everything.
     
    #2239     Feb 2, 2024
  10. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Republicans and Biden type democrats are both my/progressives enemy.As least Republicans are honest and don't lie to us about it.
     
    #2240     Feb 2, 2024