Ridin' with Biden

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Cuddles, Jul 27, 2020.

  1. Rams Fan

    Rams Fan

    Biden and the Democrats have done a horrible job of counter messaging the cry baby, sky-is-always falling Maga message.

    This economy will keep growing until the next Republican Administration is elected.

    Democrats build, GOP crashes, burns, and destroys.
     
    #2221     Feb 2, 2024
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  2. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    No worse job on messaging than the border issue which they just handed over to the GOP. Gaza w/youth was something a blind man could see coming a mile away but they f'd that up hard.

    It's possible we enter recession before election time. Layoffs started since Dec. and we're still not clear past that inverted yield curve "predictive" period. Tech surprised yesterday AH and Powell still wants more layoffs since the March IR cut is likely postponed. Might still be one of those "what recession" moments tho
     
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    #2222     Feb 2, 2024
  3. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Ok...

    Regardless, I would rather spend my time promoting someone (anyone) above the greater evil...a lot more fruitful (most satisfying) than just saying I plan to vote for West or Stein while spending very little time in comparison to promote those two.

    Trump (if he wins) will be given a global crisis that he helped create (seemed proud about it and reminded us about it when he was leaving the Oval Office) along with continued attacks on the "workers" that he believes are destroying businesses.

    That's only the beginning of his great evil plan to alienate NATO. I think he stated he wanted to defund it or get rid of it working into the secret hands of Russia, Iran, China, and North Korea.

    Not jokingly, I still remember when Trump cited and agreed with Russia about NATO military alliances. The great hypocrisy of Russia is that Trump eagerly eats their vomit while China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea secretly cement their military alliances...

    Too much symbolism from WWII with Hitler's Germany, Russia, and Japan...countries that wanted world dominance and believed starting a World War was their best route to such.

    Trump is the greater evil

    wrbtrader
     
    #2223     Feb 2, 2024
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  4. Atlantic

    Atlantic

    right

    and we have 9 months to go

    should stinky T. really be on the ballot (i don't think so) - i expect up to 30 million people who voted for him last time to vote for biden

    they don't have to love him
     
    #2224     Feb 2, 2024
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  5. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    A year ago there was a lot of covid government assistance helping people and propping up the economy,that assistance is now gone. It shouldn't be that hard to understand that a person can approve of the economy when people are getting healthcare/childcare/not having to pay students etc and no longer approve of it when those government benefits are no longer there.



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    WASHINGTON ― There’s a raging political debate about why voters hate the economy despite low unemployment, rising wages, slowing inflation and strong consumer spending.

    Are people brainwashed by TikTok? Is it partisan misinformation, or maybe too much gloomy journalism? Did no one notice the plummeting cost of a dozen eggs? These are the questions vexing the White House as President Joe Biden’s poll numbers slump ahead of the 2024 election.

    There’s another possible reason for the bitter views of the economy, a policy explanation hiding in plain sight: Some people’s lives are harder now than they were three years ago because the government is doing less.

    Starting in 2020, the federal government vastly expanded social programs, paused student loan payments and put a moratorium on evictions. But these initiatives were temporary, and as the COVID-19 pandemic subsided, the government pulled those benefits back.


    Median household income saw a substantial decline last year, the Census Bureau reported in September ― partly because of inflation, but also “due in part to the expiration of policies introduced in response to the COVID-19 pandemic.”

    One example: Congress created a monthly child benefit that paid parents as much as $300 per kid in the second half of 2021, dramatically reducing material hardship for millions of families. When the benefit expired at the beginning of 2022 ― primarily due to opposition from Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) ― the child poverty rate shot from 5.2% to 12.4%, the fastest year-over-year increase in modern American history.

    It’s possible the several million families who went through that dramatic change of economic circumstances did not enjoy the experience. In one survey last year, a third of parents said they reduced their spending on food as a result of the lapse in benefits.

    This year, the government pared back a pandemic increase to food assistance, cutting monthly Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program benefits to 16 million households by $82 per person. More than 11 million Americans have been disenrolled from Medicaid, student borrowers were required to resume paying off their loans, and extra federal funding for child care programs has just lapsed.

    Most of these pandemic policies expired automatically, without much partisan conflict, which might have reduced the amount of attention they received.

    “Classically, we understand the idea that people don’t like it when programs get cut back, but people are somewhat blind to that right now, perhaps because they don’t think of these as programs that were cut back but rather as temporary programs that ran their course,” said Matt Bruenig, director of the People’s Policy Project, a left-wing think tank.

    Bruenig’s research suggests that inflation-adjusted incomes declined for 58% of Americans last year, after having risen for a similar percentage in 2020.

    The White House has touted the success of “Bidenomics,” pointing to overall economic growth, low unemployment and wage increases outpacing inflation.

    Asked to respond to a viral TikTok video from Mackenzie Moan, a working mom who tearfully explained that she and her husband have good jobs but are still living paycheck to paycheck, White House economic adviser Jared Bernstein suggested Moan might not know about some of the administration’s policy accomplishments.

    “If you actually asked somebody like that... what do they think of the fact that we’ve kept insulin prices at $35 a month?” Bernstein said on Fox News Sunday last month. “What about giving Medicare the power to negotiate lower drug prices? What about tax incentives for manufacturing jobs? What about capping out-of-pocket prescription drug costs?”

    Bernstein noted that the recently enacted insulin price cap polls very well, as do the limits on prescription drug costs poll. Those policies, however, targeted older Americans enrolled in Medicare. They were part of the Inflation Reduction Act, the law Democrats passed last year that included green energy subsidies and funding for the IRS, but not an extension of the child tax credit payments that benefited families in 2021. That policy would have greatly expanded the $100 or $200 in disposable income that Moan said she and her husband have left over after bills each month.

    The University of Michigan’s index of consumer sentiment has been stuck at levels not seen since the Great Recession and its aftermath, when unemployment was almost three times higher than it is now. It’s possible that collectively speaking, any good feelings from expanded social welfare programs are offset by bad feelings from consumers who dislike government spending and debt. (Just like good feelings from slowing inflation have been partially offset by bad feelings about high interest rates.)

    “The expansion of fiscal policy probably doesn’t have a huge impact on sentiment,” Joanne Hsu, director of the surveys of consumers at the University of Michigan, told HuffPost.

    Stimulus checks were probably the most popular fiscal policy Congress enacted in response to the pandemic. Lawmakers sent almost everyone in America three rounds of checks in 2020 and 2021, totaling $800 billion, seemingly prompting consumers to give the government higher marks for economic policy in the University of Michigan’s surveys.

    Congress also boosted unemployment insurance, temporarily remaking a rickety federal-state scheme into the wage-replacement program of Democrats’ dreams, at a cost of nearly $700 billion. And Democrats had hoped to make their child benefit permanent, in what was supposed to be a new compact between families and the government on the scale of Social Security retirement insurance. But they fell short of that goal by one Senate vote, the program expired after six months, and voters could be poised to put Republicans back in charge of the upper chamber next year.

    It’s possible the pandemic policy experiments disappointed voters, since they saw how easy it is for Washington to make structural changes to the economy, improving life for Americans, only for lawmakers to abandon the project and revert to the status quo.

    But maybe voters don’t think like that. The way Hsu sees it, people are more nostalgic for the pre-pandemic economy than they are for the government benefits of the pandemic era.

    “We’re all in this collective sense of grief that we’re not going back to 2019,” Hsu said.
     
    #2225     Feb 2, 2024
  6. Rams Fan

    Rams Fan

    Everyone who gets laid on a regular basis will vote for Biden. More and more the MAGA movement is nothing but incel unloved dudes who resent that sane vaxxers likeTravis Kelce gets more lovin' than they do.
     
    #2226     Feb 2, 2024
  7. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    hopefully he comes around. I've seen Tony make promises of voting for Trump then DeSantis, to RFK, to Williamson to West, then to Stein, then to West again. I'm not above calling out Biden; my OG 'fucking up already' thread was started before he even took office (on the irony of not ridding us of Trump despite his promises). I lose patience when the criticisms are done in bad faith though.

    I suspect Tony's young. They have no idea what egging on fascism looks like when you have no weapons on your side.
     
    #2227     Feb 2, 2024
  8. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    I fully support minimum wage going up.One of the reasons I voted for Biden is because he said he would increase the minimum wage to 15.00 an hour.One of the reasons I am not voting for him again is because he did not do that or even tried to.


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    As far as wage increases wages has not gone up enough to allow people to have the same standard of living now with the same work it that they did years ago.All these low paying jobs Biden and his supporters keep touting don't mean shit to people who have to work 2 jobs or more hours just to have the living they had a few years ago.
     
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    #2228     Feb 2, 2024
  9. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    This shit's what drove me nuts from the admin...telegraphing "we'd like to get along/bipartisanship" and not going after Trump for his crimes because of optics & appointing an AG that would take 3 yrs before hiring a competent prosecutor. We could've gotten rid of this psycho long ago, MAGA would've thrown their hissy fit then and not risk actual violence in doing so (if they still dare) so close to election.
     
    #2229     Feb 2, 2024
  10. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    That we both and most Americans agree on.That a reason why many say the economy is bad and Biden is doing a bad job on it
     
    #2230     Feb 2, 2024