Incorrect - the clear objective is to turn Iraq into a democratic state that will not support aggression against the US or her allies. Secondary goals are to depose Saddam, to foster democracy in the Middle East, and to create a US-friendly state that will secure oil supplies. The exit plan is to turn over power to a contitutional democratic Iraqi government, probably in the summer. You may disagree on whether those objectives will be achieved (some already have been, but Iraq could descend into civil war quite easily, or elect an anti-US theocrat), but you cannot deny that they exist.
Right, you said no, which is pretty scary to me because I always thought you were an independent thinker. My bad. I didn't realize all these thoughts you had were from years and years of propaganda that have been fed to you. I'm really sorry Turok, I really am. Give your family my best wishes. Peace. Oh and btw, it's grammar school, not grammer. Next time you post get a dictionary or just use that little thing that says check spelling on your screen. Good luck with that.
Mav: >Do you need someone to affirm your beliefs? Me: >No Mav: >Right, you said no, which is pretty scary to me because I >always thought you were an independent thinker. My bad. >I didn't realize all these thoughts you had were from years >and years of propaganda that have been fed to you. I'm >really sorry Turok, I really am. Give your family my best >wishes. Peace. Clearly Mav, you have a reading comprehension problem. JB
Right you say no but then when I tell you that I have a set of beliefs that don't need to be reaffirmed and you go apeshit. Go figure. And thank you for using the spell check. I get tired of reading your posts at the third grade level.
Cutten, On a slow trading day I occasionally like to play solitaire with this deck of cards. I think you also might enjoy using them. http://www.propagandamatrix.com/shopcards.html Disregard the numerous links on the site. The people who operate websites like these should all be sent to a country where they are instructed how to think, have multinational companies creating their new tax code and legal system and are required to give us Americans 90% of their natural resources to promote worldwide "Democracy" Don't freak, its a joke. But the cards are cool
Bush Ignored Terrorism Before 911 - Public Record The Daily Mis-Lead 3-25-4 In the face of Richard Clarke's well-documented testimony to the 9/11 commission yesterday, the White House is continuing to say that it made counterterrorism its top priority upon coming into office in January 2001. White House spokesman Scott McClellan, echoing similar comments from top Administration officials, said that "this Administration made going after Al Qaida a top priority from very early on" in the face of increased terror warnings before 9/11.[1] But, according to the public record, the Administration made counterterrorism such a "top priority" that it never once convened its task force on counterterrorism before 9/11, attempted to downgrade counterterrorism at the Justice Department, and held only two out of more than one hundred national security meetings on the issue of terrorism. Meanwhile, the White House was cutting key counterterrorism programs -- Bush himself admitted that he "didn't feel the sense of urgency" about terrorism before 9/11.[2] According to the Washington Post, President Bush and Vice President Cheney never once convened the counterterrorism task force that was established in May 2001[3] -- despite repeated warnings that Al Qaida could be planning to hijack airplanes and use them as missiles. This negligence came at roughly the same time that the Vice President held at least 10 meetings of his Energy Task Force[4] and attended at least six meetings with Enron executives.[5] Similarly, Newsweek reported that internal government documents show that, before 9/11, the Bush Administration moved to "de-emphasize" counterterrorism.[6] When the "FBI officials sought to add hundreds more counterintelligence agents" to deal with the problem, "they got shot down" by the White House. Additionally, the Associated Press reported in 2002 that "President Bush's national security leadership met formally nearly 100 times in the months prior to the Sept. 11 attacks yet terrorism was the topic during only two of those sessions." This is consistent with evidence Clarke has presented showing that his January 2001 "urgent" memo asking for a meeting of top officials on the imminent Al Qaida threat was rejected for almost eight months.[7] At the time, the White House said that they simply "did not need to have a formal meeting to discuss the threat".[8] Finally, the White House threatened to veto efforts putting more money into counterterrorism,[9] tried to cut funding for counterterrorism grants,[10] delayed arming the unmanned airplanes[11] that had spotted bin Laden in Afghanistan, and terminated "a highly classified program to monitor Al Qaida suspects in the United States.[12] Sources: 1. Press Briefing Scott McClellan, 03/22/2004. http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/03/20040322-4.html 2. The George W. Bush Presidency: An Early Assessment, 2003. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0801878462/inktomi-bkasin-20/ref=nosim/104-9194105-8771115 3. Statement by the President, 05/08/2001. http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/05/20010508.html 4. Process Used to Develop the National Energy Policy, US General Accounting Office. http://www.house.gov/reform/min/pdfs_108/pdf_inves/pdf_energy_cheney_gao_aug_2003_rep.pdf 5. "Cheney: We Met With Enron Execs", ABC News, 01/09/2002. http://abcnews.go.com/sections/business/DailyNews/enron_cheneyletter020109.html 6. Freedom of Information Center, 05/27/2002. http://foi.missouri.edu/terrorismfoi/whatwentwrong.html 7. "Clarke's Take On Terror", CBS News, 03/21/2004. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/19/60minutes/main607356.shtml 8. "White House Rebuttal to Clarke Interview", Washington Post, 03/22/2004. http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A14760-2004Mar22?language=printer 9. Freedom of Information Center, 05/27/2002. http://foi.missouri.edu/terrorismfoi/whatwentwrong.html 10. "FBI Budget Squeezed After 9/11", Washington Post, 03/22/2004. http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A13541-2004Mar21?language=printer 11. "Officials: U.S. missed chance to kill bin Laden", Helena Independent Record, 06/25/2003. http://www.helenair.com/articles/2003/06/25/national_top/a01062503_04.txt 12. "In the Months Before 9/11, Justice Department Curtailed Highly Classified Program to Monitor Al Qaeda Suspects in the U.S.", PR Newswire, 03/21/2004. http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040321/nysu007a_1.html http://www.misleader.org/daily_mislead/Read.asp?fn=df03252004.html
If what Richard Clarke has testified has no impact on most voters in the US, then something needs to be done with the education system and the mental health situation of the country. I know both are caught in deepening economic woes, but for the future of the country it's really better to first ensure mental health in the population/voters and being educated.
Mental health of America is an interesting subject. I had a roommate once who told me he had a sudden shock in his life when he was young. His father dropped dead of a heart attack at the age of 37. The wife of the dead man, my friend's father, went into a near catatonic state. She served the same meal every night for a year, and set a place for her dead husband in the process. For those who believe in the reality of modern psychology, the entire country, especially New York City and the D.C. area, were subject to an enormous shock to their immediate and our national systems. It is my belief that a "post traumatic stress" syndrome is in play on a rather massive scale in this country, and many people are still living in a state of shock, denial, and automatic reactive only style behavior without thinking or being in tune with present time realities.
I just love the attacks on Clarke by Bush and company, they are very reminiscent of the previous Republicrat administrations, and they are most predictable. Reminds me of another American hero, Scott Ritter, who took a stand against the tyranny of those who would censor free speech by telling all Americans that there were no WMD, and no reason to go to war with Iraq. He too was labeled a traitor.
Scott Ritter is an American hero alright. It's amazing who you liberals call heroes. Here's a guy that talked to a 12 year old girl on the internet and agreed to meet her at a McDonalds only to find an undercover FBI agent. He went to court, plea bargained out of court and because of his status with the government was able to get his records sealed. Yeah, real american hero. LOL. Come on ART, you can find better heroes then Ritter can't you? Can't you?