Revelation is starting to make some sense..

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Fractals 'R Us, Jan 27, 2013.

  1. I'm "bent out of shape" because the presentation of "evidence" is blatantly dishonest.

    I read the articles, and some of the references. Like I said, no debunking is occurring here. They blatantly take small snippets out of scientific research to make it fit their argument. Rather dishonest for a "Christian", no?

    Right, scientific and out of context within a warped and flawed argument.

    This part just proves you aren't operating at the intellectual level to even participate in this debate.
     
    #91     Jan 30, 2013
  2. jem

    jem

    I have decided to name what I am seeing more and more of...
    p.a.p

    passive aggressive posting
     
    #92     Jan 30, 2013
  3. stu

    stu

    If I understand your point I think it might be an academic one. The current common ancestors of all living things, bacteria / eukaryote / archaea may indeed have had multiple forbear lineages. There may well be many organisms preceding those ones, but at that level of molecular science, would it not be pure chemical reaction which is the precursor to the origin of life?
    Inorganic chemicals reacting in numerous different ways, forming simple evolving self-replicating organic molecules in chains of nucleotides to RNA . From multiple root form origins, but essentially one common origin.
    The actual detailed processes being another kettle of fish, but the origin of all life - I would suggest is basically a chemical one in any case.

    With his one answer to all questions, goddidit, that's must be pretty much true.
     
    #93     Jan 30, 2013
  4. stu

    stu

    Quote from jem:
    "There is plenty of science to show how life can come from non life."

    Quote from jem
    For years you said we had proof that life came from non life.

    You see, you can't reason. It's why you're forever arguing like a red neck creationist.

    The first statement is mine and it's true.
    The second is yours, which you changed in this thread by adding the words "or evidence".
    At least in its original form the second is a blatent lie, now its .... well...still a lie.

    Then science doesn't have enough info to rule out Odin, Goblins, Spiderman or the Speghetti Monster in that case. But what use is that to anyone? It isn't science.


    Now true to form you've started re-repeating and cycling through like a thoughtless troll, more of your same old cut & pastes that have already been refuted debunked a thousand times. Well done.

    pathetic.
    I have decided to name what I am seeing more and more of from you..
    u.b.s.

    utter bull shit.
     
    #94     Jan 30, 2013
  5. rcn10ec

    rcn10ec

    Give me some examples with explanations of the above accusations.
    And while you are at it, show me some proof (not hypothese/unproven theories/speculation) that what you believe is undoubtedly true.
    Even the most highly respected scientists in their field have and still do debate these matters with each other and still haven't proven beyond doubt their theories.
    That's why they are called hypothetical theories and not proven fact.
    It's really very simple. If you can remove the speculation with proof... these type conversations/debates become extinct regardless of intellectual level. But, you cannot or you would have done so.
    Use a little common sense... if something had been taking place for hundreds of millions of years there would be
    plenty of undeniable evidence left behind to back up what had taken place.
    Edit: I'm refering to simple life forms transitioning into fish to amphibians to reptiles to mammals.
     
    #95     Jan 30, 2013
  6. So you want a worm with fins and legs and gills and lungs and mammary glands. Would you like wings with that too?:D
     
    #96     Jan 31, 2013
  7. rcn10ec

    rcn10ec

    Yeah, that would be a pretty cool find, alright... kinda like the duck-billed platypus???:D
     
    #97     Jan 31, 2013
  8. I could literally write about 10 pages on each article as to why they're wrong, how they're wrong, and present their own evidence against them. I don't have the time or patience to do that, so I will suggest you just read the first reference for that high school level Tiktaalik roseae "article" (Hint, it's in the last paragraph). If you can't differentiate between the intent of that article and the blatant attempt to use that quotation out of context in that horribly juvenile link you used, then we're done here.

    I really don't even see the point in debating you on this subject when you clearly don't understand the scientific method, what the word "theory" means, and the actual theory of evolution.

    Like I said before, you're utilizing the 'god in the gaps' argument. This stance has been proven wrong time and time again. As more research is done, these gaps get smaller and smaller, and eventually disappear.

    If you look up the definition of "theory" you'll find that it actually means a working idea substantiated by facts and evidence. When applied to the "theory of evolution", the evidence is amassing on a daily basis.

    Here's a nice starting point for you

    And you still haven't addressed my evidence from before. Probably because you don't understand it.
     
    #98     Jan 31, 2013


  9. The platypus is featured on the Australian 20 cent coin.
    The strangeness of this animal is sometimes used as evidence that God did have a good sense of humor.


    http://www.conservapedia.com/Platypus


    more from conservapedia..


    "like all modern animals . . . kangaroos are the descendants of the two founding members of the modern kangaroo baramin that were taken aboard Noah's Ark prior to the Great Flood."

    "After the Flood, these kangaroos bred from the Ark passengers migrated to Australia. There is debate whether this migration happened over land with lower sea levels during the post-flood ice age, or before the supercontinent of Pangea broke apart, or if they rafted on mats of vegetation torn up by the receding flood waters."

    Oh man that's good stuff.

    and then there's this

    "The Toyota Prius is a hybrid electric vehicle made in Japan. It is very popular with homosexuals."
     
    #99     Jan 31, 2013
  10. Every time someone writes "that's why they're called theories and not facts" I have to laugh and must then believe they are children. Nah nah, poo poo, they are theories not facts. Fucking HA HA HA!



     
    #100     Jan 31, 2013