Respected Conservative Columnist crits Trump

gwb-trading · Jul 27, 2018

Slartibartfast said:
I am a natural "conservative", whatever it has become in the US it is nothing close to the pre-90s idea and certainly not a relative of international conservative norms any longer.

I would be very interested in hearing an honest reply to that question. But I think there will be a change-subject as such reflection seems beyond people who can swallow seven contradictions before breakfast.

I would expect the reason they are not conservative really is they are closer to something else. In the thrall of cult narcissism.

Narcissists aren’t very conservative but believe in inequality

https://www.newscientist.com/articl...-very-conservative-but-believe-in-inequality/

Are narcissists more likely to be right-wing conservatives or rebellious liberals? A study of narcissistic personalities reveals they typically combine elements of both, helping to explain some of President Trump’s actions.
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Now I cannot concur that you are a "natural conservative".

Traditional conservatives are "fiscally conservative" with tax dollars, strongly support education, believe in reasonable taxation with sound spending plans, demand cost analysis & payback information on public projects, support short-term (not long-term) public benefits, believe more charity should come from the private sector than the taxpayer, are likely to stay out of governing social issues (clearly a problem with government today) and are generally socially progressive in a slow manner (do not like quick social changes).

Many politicians are narcissists. We have many examples in local, state, and federal government. They are found of both sides of the aisle. It is a not a "Democratic" or "Republican" thing -- but a "many politicians" thing. Trump just takes narcissism to to the next level compared to the others.

Slartibartfast · Jul 27, 2018

Max E. said:
LOL, was thinking the same thing, in what world do you have to live in to consider Jennifer Rubin a conservative, the woman is a fully unhinged nutjob, the other day she was on Maher's show calling for a boycott of all businesses in Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski's states if they dont block Trumps supremecourt nominee. Conservative my ass.
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So clearly in this eye, conservative is team conservative, nothing to do with conservative values.

Tribalism/team is all I see, with or against trigger reaction is not actual conservatism.

exGOPer · Jul 27, 2018

Slartibartfast said:
So clearly in this eye, conservative is team conservative, nothing to do with conservative values.

Tribalism/team is all I see, with or against trigger reaction is not actual conservatism.
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It's not that, it's immigrants/minorities + transgenders/gays + woman not putting out as they used to (aka feminism) + their taxes helping poor people especially minorities (aka fiscal conservatism)

These are the only four issues that matter and these are the only issues that will ever matter for Cons everywhere.

Slartibartfast · Jul 27, 2018

exGOPer said:
It's not that, it's immigrants/minorities + transgenders/gays + woman not putting out as they used to + their taxes helping poor people especially minorities.

These are the only four issues that matter and these are the only issues that mattered since the birth of the nation.
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On the macro level yes. What I see when I look at guys like Max E., KKK, Gem and the rest is mean and damaged characters supplying each other.

As a conservative I hate saying 'supplying'.

Anyway 7391.25 to 7309 first target and I'm well paid for the day on NQ. Off to pack for the weekend away.

UsualName · Jul 27, 2018

Optionpro007 said:
If you want to inform yourself, you are welcome.

EDITORIALS

Income Tax Revenues Are Up 9% This Year — Is Trump Tax Cut Paying For Itself?

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7/11/2018

Supply-Side Economics: Democrats scoffed at Republicans who said the Trump tax cuts would at least partially pay for themselves through higher economic growth. But it looks like the GOP had it right all along, as revenues climb.

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The latest monthly budget report from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office finds that revenues from federal income taxes were $76 billion higher in the first half of this year, compared with the first half of 2017. That's a 9% jump, even though the lower income tax withholding schedules went into effect in February.

The CBO says the gain "largely reflects increases in wages and salaries."

For the fiscal year as a whole — which started last October — all federal revenues are up by $31 billion. That's a 1.2% in increase over last year, the CBO says.

The Treasury Department, which issues a separate monthly report, says it expects federal revenues will continue to exceed last year's for the rest of the 2018 fiscal year.

But wait a minute. According to Democrats, the Trump tax cuts were supposed to blow a massive hole in the deficit.

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Last November, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi promised that "this thing will explode the deficit."

She also said that "after the Republicans' tax plan blows a multi-trillion-dollar hole in the deficit, they will sharpen their knives for Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and vital job-creating investments for middle class families."

Even now, Pelosi is sticking to her guns. In June, she called it "the deficit-exploding GOP tax scam for the rich."

All along, Republicans countered that the tax cuts would spur additional economic growth, which would generate additional revenues, which would offset at least some of the cost of the tax cuts.

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer's response to that? "It's just made-up, fake math to hide another deficit-busting tax cut to benefit the wealthiest Republicans."

Look at what's happened since the tax cuts went into effect.

Economists hiked their projections for growth this year once the tax cuts passed. The CBO changed its 2018 forecast from 2% before the tax cuts passed to 3.3% after they took effect. In that same report, the CBO admitted that this added growth would offset a significant chunk of the tax cuts.

Other Democratic big lies about the tax cuts continue to fall.

They called the tax cuts a giveaway to the rich. But the rich will end up paying a bigger share of income taxes because of the Trump tax plan.

They said workers wouldn't benefit, but millions got bonuses, raises, and improved benefits because of the corporate tax cuts. And real median household income is now at all-time highs.

Democrats also said that tax cuts would do nothing about the $2.9 trillion in profits that corporations had parked overseas.

In fact, corporations are bringing hundreds of billions of dollars in profits back as a direct result of changes in the corporate tax laws — 12% of the nearly $3 trillion held overseas came back to the U.S. in just the first three months of 2018. That will mean more economic growth and additional corporate revenues.

It's the Spending, Stupid
As we have said many times in this space, the problem the country faces isn't that taxes are too low, but that spending is too high. The CBO projects that even with the Trump tax cuts in place, taxes as a share of GDP will steadily rise over the next decade, and will be higher than the post-World War II average.

But bringing in more tax revenues doesn't help if spending goes up even faster. And that has, unfortunately, been the case, as the GOP-controlled Congress has gone on a spending spree.

Look at it this way. Tax revenues are up by $31 billion so far this fiscal year compared with last year. But spending is up $115 billion.

In other words, the entire increase in the deficit so far this year has been due to spending hikes, not tax cuts.
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That revenue is not surprising with a 4% quarter. We will see how the numbers look in October.

exGOPer · Jul 27, 2018

Slartibartfast said:
On the macro level yes. What I see when I look at guys like Max E., KKK, Gem and the rest is mean and damaged characters supplying each other.

Anyway 7391.25 to 7309 first target and I'm well paid for the day on NQ.
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Don't go by what they say, read between the lines, you will notice one of the four themes serving as the background for all of their nonsense.

For example, one reason they oppose accepting the scientific view on climate change is because they think it will raise their taxes and benefit the ugly minorities.

UsualName · Jul 27, 2018

gwb-trading said:
Now I cannot concur that you are a "natural conservative".

Traditional conservatives are "fiscally conservative" with tax dollars, strongly support education, believe in reasonable taxation with sound spending plans, demand cost analysis & payback information on public projects, support short-term (not long-term) public benefits, believe more charity should come from the private sector than the taxpayer, are likely to stay out of governing social issues (clearly a problem with government today) and are generally socially progressive in a slow manner (do not like quick social changes).

Many politicians are narcissists. We have many examples in local, state, and federal government. They are found of both sides of the aisle. It is a not a "Democratic" or "Republican" thing -- but a "many politicians" thing. Trump just takes narcissism to to the next level compared to the others.
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I think you meant strongly support *indoctrination.

Slartibartfast · Jul 27, 2018

exGOPer said:
Don't go by what they say, read between the lines, you will notice one of the four themes serving as the background for all of their nonsense.

For example, one reason they oppose accepting the scientific view on climate change is because they think it will raise their taxes and benefit the ugly minorities.
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And s3 target now.. love Fridays.

Yep, it is mostly about finding a way to feel superior than another while actually doing nothing to warrant merit on a personal level. 68.51 long on CL OW.. will I get the bounce .

Edit. 2 ticks.. come on..try from 40

Slartibartfast · Jul 27, 2018

Of course one way to feel good is to actually be superior but that takes a bit of balls and hard work for the skills.

Noooo says the trumper ! It must be sim!! it is lies!!

hehe. Have a good Friday all.

But he is a foreign!!! not exceptional!!

Fake News!!!

AAAintheBeltway · Jul 27, 2018

UsualName said:
With all due respect, you cannot support Trump and call yourself a conservative.
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Labels like conservative and liberal have lost relevance. The alt right and far left actually share a considerable number of positions. The alt right and black nationalists and the so-called hotep black pride movement also have a lot in common.

My position is populist/nationalist, which I think is pretty close to what Trump espouses and which is ascendant in a Europe reeling from the horror of uncontrolled migration. This is a philosophy that some would call paleo-conservative, and has been articulated for a long time by Pat Buchanan, among others.

The primary tenets would be a total revamping of immigration policy, a strong defense but staying out of far away conflicts that do not threaten us directly, strict reciprocity on trade and protection of entitlements like social security and medicare. IOW pretty much the exact opposite of the policies of the establishment republican party.