Resisting arrest

Discussion in 'Politics' started by VEGASDESERT, Apr 16, 2021.

  1. userque

    userque

    Still can't admit it, can you? In your responses ... who is pulling the trigger.

    Did you forget: Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

    Breaking the law never shot anyone, people shoot people.

    Resisting arrest never shot anyone, people shoot people.

    Risk never shot anyone, people shoot people.
     
    #51     Apr 18, 2021
  2. I've said there are bad cops plenty of times. Burn them, burn them bad where crimes are committed in the line of duty. Now all we have to do is get everyone to be at least a wee bit reasonable and acknowledge that all cop shootings are not pre meditated assassinations.
     
    #52     Apr 18, 2021
  3. userque

    userque

    No.

    You said when the suspect didn't resist, and it's clear cut.
     
    #53     Apr 18, 2021
  4. userque

    userque

    If there's one thing to be said about overt racists; it's that they don't bullshit and pussyfoot about their real feelings.

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    #54     Apr 18, 2021
  5. LS1Z28

    LS1Z28

    The use of lethal force is only authorized when the officer believes the criminal poses a significant threat of serious bodily injury or death to themselves or others. Resisting arrest might get you thrown down to the pavement, but it shouldn't cost you your life.

    The biggest issue I see isn't resisting arrest, it's failing to comply with police orders. Most people get shot because they refuse to drop a deadly weapon, or they fail to comply with orders when the police fear they have a deadly weapon.
     
    #55     Apr 18, 2021
  6. It’s a good thing we have videos now to help put bad cops like Chauvin to justice. However, it makes sense that in a country that has a mass shooting every fucking day cops will occasionally misread a situation and use unnecessary force. They are human and they fear for their lives like the rest of us, no matter how much training they go through.
     
    #56     Apr 18, 2021
  7. userque

    userque

    “I Feared for My Life”: Law Enforcement’s Appeal to Murderous Empathy
    Martel A. Pipkins
    https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2153368717697103

    "Abstract
    This article utilizes critical discourse analysis (CDA) to examine discursive strategies used by police officers for justification and appeals for empathy for the murders of unarmed civilians, primarily Black civilians, while also reinforcing the implicit bias that Black individuals are dangerous. These discursive strategies show the emergence of a master narrative that connects the officers’ discursive strategies for invoking empathy to avoiding blame. An analytical framework for blame avoidance supplements the CDA to underline the relationship between the master narrative and blame avoidance. Using high-profile cases in news media, I demonstrate how these narratives take various forms and work to the benefit of the officer(s) involved. ..."
     
    #57     Apr 18, 2021
  8. userque

    userque

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    #58     Apr 18, 2021
  9. smallfil

    smallfil

    #59     Apr 18, 2021
  10. Well, that's the logical reason if they weren't outright looking to murder somebody, isn't it? If they didn't think somebody's life was in danger that would be outright murder. I'm going to assume you've never had to make a split second decision as to whether or not to draw a gun on somebody. I haven't either. However, I can see why it's a decision that can lead to error. How you see things in the moment, may not be the reality of what's unfolding. It's kind of like when a professional QB throws an interception misreading the defense. About 250 cops are shot a year and about 40-50 of them will die. Cops don't face that level of threat in other countries. Hence their willingness to use guns as a form of self-defense reflects that threat. Furthermore, I can see how cops assigned to more homicide-prone areas would be even more willing to use a gun as they are even more threatened. It's easy for you to sit from the luxury of an internet forum and criticize their decisions when you've never been in the fast moving scenarios they are in. Everybody should be open to ideas when it comes to reducing unarmed citizen deaths. Body cameras are a good thing and I hope to see them adopted everywhere. However, there is way more hatred/broad brush statements towards police than reasonable suggestions being thrown out.
     
    #60     Apr 19, 2021