Research: new option type "Chameleon option" :-)

Discussion in 'Options' started by thecoder, Sep 11, 2020.

  1. thecoder

    thecoder

    @VolSkewTrader, by getting personal, you just prove that you are out of arguments, nothing more, man :)
    I asked you publicly to prove your claim that my FairPut allegedly would create arbitrage, but you haven't answered that posting yet, instead coming with your above off-topic nonsense "argument".
    You surely can think much and believe much, but whether it's true is of course another question... :)
     
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    #51     Sep 13, 2020
  2. thecoder

    thecoder

    From the said private discussion with @VolSkewTrader regarding the alleged arbitrage of FairPut:

    thecoder wrote:
     
    #52     Sep 13, 2020
  3. thecoder

    thecoder

    Man, I'm arguing with some self-proclaimed "experts" like @VolSkewTrader who have no real clue about the lognormal distribution!...
    This can only mean the American brain-drain in action :)
    Someone please inform Mr. Trump not to close the borders for foreign scientists :)
     
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    #53     Sep 13, 2020
  4. themickey

    themickey

    Hehehe :)
     
    #54     Sep 13, 2020
  5. destriero

    destriero


    Buy your stupid fucking put, sell SPX put, instant arbitrage. You're now broke. $300 down the drain.
     
    #55     Sep 13, 2020
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  6. thecoder

    thecoder

    destriero wrote:
    Not true, idiot! This already has been analyzed and tested, and cleared to be not the case!
    You are just incapable to grasp it!
    Read the definition of Arbitrage some postings above, ie.:
    https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...e-chameleon-option.349956/page-5#post-5201939

    Arbitrage has primarily to do with the payoff, not necessarily with the time value of the option.
    As long as S, s, r, q stay the same then there is no payoff, so no arbitrage.
    And if these params change, then there is of course a payoff, but this is then not an arbitrage (b/c the params have changed)!

    And the premium of FairPUT is the same of PUT. So, then how can arbitrage at all be possible? Is not possible.

    The mathematical relation is:
    profit = credit + payoff
    where credit and payoff can also be negative, so then of course also profit.
    Ie. credit is negative for Long and positive for Short...
     
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    #56     Sep 13, 2020
  7. will someone please ban this motherfucker already
     
    #57     Sep 13, 2020
  8. thecoder

    thecoder

    You are off-topic, you should be banned.
     
    #58     Sep 13, 2020
  9. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    how does it feel to spend so much time explaining basic concepts to him In private and then watch him publicly lambast you?
     
    #59     Sep 13, 2020
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  10. thecoder

    thecoder

    It's me who teaches them a lesson, not the other way :)
     
    #60     Sep 13, 2020