Requesting Help Before Ordering Hardware!

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by radist, Dec 13, 2010.

  1. jokepie

    jokepie

    Yep, Dell support is excellent and its ON site. And with holidays and all I am sure you can pick an extra 10%-20% off on the price.

    Think about it.
    I have an XPS 630 - 3 yrs old with old quad core and 4gb ram. Everything runs great. Make sure you get 64bit OS. its much faster and better. I have two geforce 9800GTs running 4 dell 19inchs with absolutely no problem.
     
    #61     Dec 14, 2010
  2. radist

    radist

    Yep.
     
    #62     Dec 14, 2010
  3. radist

    radist

    #63     Dec 14, 2010
  4. Holy Cow! One day away from the Hardware forum and a thread with 11-page replies! I thought I'd missed out on a controversy! :D

    The above config seems very good at the price indicated. I bought parts to build my own box and had spent just about that much, and without the 3-year warranty. :)

    My comments:

    1. Looks like they throw in "A" video card featuring the Nvidia GeForce GTS 450 chip. But didn't say what brand. "A major brand". This card may (or may not) drive 2 monitors. So if you want to support 3 monitors, you probably only need to purchase one more dual card. But you better match the brand (at least) and model (the best) they use. Or else there may be compatibility issues.

    2. If you throw away the video card they give you (or see if they can knock down the price) and buy 2 dual cards yourself... I use a few of the PNY Technologies 8400 GS DMS cards, like this:

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...logies_VCG84DMS5SXPB_GeForce_8400_GS_DMS.html

    Fanless. (IMO better than the ones with a fan). I bought them on sale at about $50 each (new). From Fry's.


    One thing seemed to be missing from these posts:

    How do you trade?

    Because that dictates what hardware or emphasis you should have. If you just need to box to plots many charts, the stated configuration is more than what you may need. If you do many automated strategy trading and lots of back-testing, that's different. I have 2 boxes built with i7-930 chip, 6GB RAM, Windows 7 64-bit OS. I use them primarily for TradeStation charts. Each drive 6 22/23/24-inch monitors. Any given time, I have about 50+ charts on each box. My hardware is more than adequate for my use.


    RE: SSD versus 10k rpm versus 7500 rpm disk drives

    SSD and 10k rpm drives are more expensive. Is cost-saving your objective? If not, you can beef up on the disk drive(s). Or else my opinion is there is no need for them. I have an Intel X25-V 40GB disk on one of my boxes. I did some benchmark tests of my own and concluded that there was no appreciable time saving on boot up nor application start up. So to me it was money not well spent. Same goes for the 10k rpm disk. Does your software do a lot of disk I/O? If so, worth spending. If not, not worth spending.


    RE: noise

    If you can hear your hard drive clicking, you probably have very acute hearing. In most cases the cooling fans of a computer are the loudest component compared to a disk drive. If you put your box underneath your desk like I do, those noises are hardly noticeable.
     
    #64     Dec 14, 2010
  5. I would ogo with an ATI card. More exact a PowrColor 5770 Eyefinity 5.... that allows you to move up to 5 monitors should you deicde to ON ONE CARD, or 10 monitors on 2. Low power usage, too. Just purchasing them... VERY NICE.
     
    #65     Dec 15, 2010
  6. radist

    radist

    Thanks for your recent responses, Bollimomo and NetTecture.

    I'm ready to get the goods. One thing changed. I'll be using a single 40" monitor and not more than a second monitor at this time.

    Bollimomo, could I trouble you to take a detailed look at what I'm purchasing and see if there is any redundancy or anything I omitted.

    Once again, many thanks.

    http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/CyberPower_X58_Configuratr/

    Case: Thermaltake Element-T Mid-Tower Case [-17] (Original Color)
    Internal USB Extension Module: NZXT Internal USB 6-PORT Expansion Module + USB Bluetooth 2.X EDR Dongle with Led Light Thumb Size [+29]
    Neon Light Upgrade: None
    Extra Case Fan Upgrade: Maximum Enermax 120MM Case Cooling Fans for selected case (Maximum Silent Operation) [+29] (1,000 RPM Black Color with No LED Enlobal Magnetic Barometric Bearing 17 dBA)
    Noise Reduction Technology: Sound Absorbing Foam on Side, Top And Bottom panels [+29]
    CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-950 3.06 GHz 8M Intel Smart Cache LGA1366
    Freebies: Civilization V Full Version Game
    Star Trek Online Digital Deluxe Game
    Venom Boost Fast And Efficient Factory Overclocking: Pro OC (Performance Overclock 10% or more) [+19]
    Cooling Fan: XtremeGear Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Enhanced Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA)
    Motherboard: (3-Way SLI Support) MSI X58A-GD45 Intel X58 Chipset SLI/CrossFireX Triple-Channel DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ 7.1 Audio, eSATA, GbLAN, USB3.0, SATA-III, RAID, IEEE1394a, 3 Gen2 PCIe, 3 PCIe X1 & 1 PCI (All Venom OC Certified)
    Motherboard Expansion Card: None
    Memory: 6GB (2GBx3) DDR3/1600MHz Triple Channel Memory Module (Corsair or Major Brand)
    Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GT 430 1GB 16X PCI Express (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
    Freebies: None
    Video Card 2: None
    Video Card 3: None
    Dedicated PHYSX Card: None
    Multiple Video Card Settings: Non-SLI/Non-CrossFireX Mode Supports Multiple Monitors
    Power Supply Upgrade: 500 Watts - Standard Case Power Supply [+22]
    Hard Drive: 80 GB Intel X25-M 2.5 inch SATA Gaming MLC Solid State Disk [+127] (Single Hard Drive)
    Data Hard Drive: None
    Hard Drive Cooling Fan: None
    External Hard Drive (USB3.0/2.0/eSATA): None
    USB Flash Drive: None
    Optical Drive: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
    Optical Drive 2: None
    Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
    3D Vision Glasses: None
    FREE MONITOR: None
    LCD Monitor: None
    2nd Monitor: None
    3rd Monitor: None
    Speakers: None
    Network: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
    Network Surge Protector: None
    Keyboard: Xtreme Gear (Black Color) Multimedia/Internet USB Keyboard
    Mouse: XtremeGear Optical USB 3 Buttons Gaming Mouse
    Mouse Pad: None
    Gaming Gear: None
    Extra Thermal Display: None
    Wireless 802.11B/G Network Card: None
    External Wireless Network Card: None
    Wireless 802.11 B/G/N Access Point: None
    Bluetooth: None
    Flash Media Reader/Writer: None
    Video Camera: None
    Headset: None
    Printer: None
    Cable: None
    Power Protection: OPTI-UPS VS575B 575VA/345W Uninterrupt Power Supply [+46]
    Surge Protector: Ultra U12-40551 Smart 6 Outlet Surge Protector [+36]
    IEEE1394 Card: None
    USB Port: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
    Floppy: None
    Operating System: None - FORMAT HARD DRIVE ONLY
    Media Center Remote Control & TV Tuner: None
    Office Suite: None
    Games: None
    Ultra Care Option: None
    Service: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
    Rush Service: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 10~15 BUSINESS DAYS
     
    #66     Jan 2, 2011
  7. Hi radist:

    Your inventory list looks good. A very nice system. Congrats! Some questions:

    1) You said will using a single 40-inch monitor. What resolution is that monitor? Is it a HDTV also used as computer monitor? Or it's a higher resolution monitors like the Apple ones 2560 x 1440 or higher? If it is the latter case, your video card needs to match it too. And most video card only goes up to 1920 x 1080.

    2) Looks like you will have a 80GB SSD. Not sure what you planned to back up data. You can back up on DVD (4.5 GB) or double layer DVD (9 GB) one disc at a time. But the DL DVR-RW discs are a bit expensive. You may want to pick up a USB disk drive, like 256GB or 500GB which are quite affordable nowadays. I do my daily backups on USB hard drives now and not mess with DVD discs any more.

    3) From the list it seems that no operating system comes with it. (Seems a bit unusual). What OS are you planning on using?
     
    #67     Jan 2, 2011
  8. Bob111

    Bob111

    i would skip the SSD and stick with good old HD. two of them. i was thinking about buying couple SSD's, just to play with it,but the more reviews i read on newegg about various SSD's-the more concerned i've become.looks like this technology have to mature a little bit more.
    it's maybe ok for regular users laptops,but certainly not for trading PC,unless you have very specific needs.
     
    #68     Jan 2, 2011
  9. radist

    radist

    Thank you, Bol.

    Yes, HDTV 1080P I hopefully can use as a monitor because it's already purchased it. Open box return from Amazon Warehouse, no warranty, but 30 day return policy which should be enough to know if I want it or not. If I blew it, please let me know. I was a little concerned as non one writing amazon reviews of it use it as a monitor.

    Bol, I see you live in Cali from your profile. Do you happen to live in SoCal and if you do might you be able to recommend anyone to do the installation?

    Many thanks again.

    Samsung UN40C6300 40-Inch 1080p 120 Hz LED HDTV
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0036WT492/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used:eek: :eek: :eek:
     
    #69     Jan 2, 2011
  10. radist

    radist


    Is the 80GB SSD good. Do you suggest another. A couple of folks here I believe recommended that. Do you back up anything related to trading? I will be using NinjaTrader.

    I have the disc for Windows7 and was thinking it was alright to load on a second computer, what do you think? But I don't have the office suite with any software for it and will use my MacBook Pro for that or can add it later.
     
    #70     Jan 2, 2011