Requesting Help Before Ordering Hardware!

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by radist, Dec 13, 2010.

  1. radist

    radist

    This is a possibility -- bumping it up front. Thanks.
     
    #111     Jan 14, 2011
  2. radist

    radist

    Bump. Thanks again.
     
    #112     Jan 14, 2011
  3. Canoe007

    Canoe007

    DITTO on NVidia over ATI
    to simplify my system, I'm going for Eyefinity 6 to drive all six monitors from one video card, but I hate having to switch to an ATI driver

    Saw someone mention cards with VGA & DVI output. Stay clear of using VGA, it's acceptable with the right monitor/card, but you're not building an "acceptable" system on the cheap. The DVI, HDMI or DisplayPort is much clearer, sharper, lower fatique. No contest.

    No need for faster than 1600 memory. Get low latency.

    For your 2D trading info, don't worry much about the speed of the graphic card (and, 8x PCI-E is overkill). If one card will be driving all three monitors, make sure it's 1G mem (not 512M).

    I didn't read through all the posts, nor look at the specs of the various SSDs. But I did see Photography mentioned. I often work with images that are 700-800 mb uncompressed without any additional masks or layers. For a huge leg up, consider going for a PCI-E SSD for your system disk (like a http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227578) . Many (most?) PCI-E SSDs are double width cards, so they'll block a second slot. Watch out for spacing on your MB if you'll be running:
    PCI-E SSD
    PCI-E Video Card one
    PCI-E Video Card two
    and more so if the video cards are double wide cards, and if double wide, watch that there's enough room in the case for the last card's air flow.

    And don't be shy about putting your photoshop primary swap disk on a RAM disk.

    If you're going to be editing video, my opinion is that a PCI-E SSD is essential. If you're working with RAW video, the size of the drive is really going to cost you. For still photos, a 120G PCI-E SSD is about right for system, programs, trading logs and an area for photos you're currently working on.

    If you haven't gone firm on the monitors yet, check out:
    http://photo.net/digital-darkroom-forum/
    and
    http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?
    Having one monitor a Dell Ultrasharp is bonus for photo retouching. A friend has an ultra sharp in the middle and two other Dell's on the side. There are others considered similar in quality. Don't know about LED available in that quality yet. Check the forums. (I'm saving for the 30" 3011 Ultrasharp)
     
    #113     Jan 15, 2011
  4. Sounds like a great system radist. I'm sure you'll be pleased with it. Something I'm curious about and reading through the pages, I don't think anyone has really talked about it is: playing high def videos from netflix online. Is there a need for high end graphics chips for this? Does it help at all? you can tell i am totally clueless by my question lol
    I'm probably going to get something similar to you radist. I definitely do not need to play games or edit movies/pictures. What I want to do is have several charts (maybe up to 30) and several different accounts (3 or 4) open at one time. I also want to be able to play HD movies from netflix or youtube without any problem. (On the system I have now, the cpu is old, but I do have 4gb of ram) As soon as I try playing HD stuff, cpu maxes out and everything freezes.
    My plan/question is: I am thinking of getting the new 2600 i7, 12 gb ram, and a 10k rpm hard drive. But I am not sure about graphics chips. I'm only going to have one monitor. Would it be helpful to get the top of the line graphics chips like a 2 gb nvidia geforce gt420 or 1.5 gb nvidia geforce gt440 as opposed to the stock radeon ATI 5450. Actually I'm not even sure the 10k hard drive would help. What do the friendly resident experts think?
     
    #114     Jan 15, 2011
  5. I don't believe any high performance graphics cards/chips are required. The main advantage of having high performance graphics cards/chips is that it offloads the computing-intensive tasks - such as drawing 3-D polygons, adding shading, shadows, handling translucency, etc.. from the computer's CPU to the graphcis processor. Those tasks are needed mostly for gaming - computer 3-D animations.

    When you play a movie, it's just 2-D bitmap images transferred at high speed. Because images are transmitted in compressed forms (e.g. MPEG-4) from the server to your PC, you do need a CPU that is fast enough to decode the streamed data (which is why older, slower computers may have a hard time playing movies in high-def). But any low end graphics cards should do. I watch Netflix movies all the time on my LCD monitors and I only use some low cost EVGA and PNY Technologies graphics cards.
     
    #115     Jan 16, 2011
  6. I am still indebted to you for the corn short call some time back. To that end, here goes:

    There seems to be a concensus among financial industry technology folks that with charting being in only two dimensions, there is no need for high end 3-D graphics processing power and there can actually be some negatives associated with them because of power demand and heat generated. There are many super systems out there running basic (bland) 2-D graphics cards like the nVidia NVS series which are very cheap, dependable and scalable. Stack as many as you can fit in the box if you want that much expansion.

    With respect to the speed of the HDD, I don't know what you're reading and writing to HDD but that's what's to be considered. Will you benefit from a faster read/ write time? If the system is just streaming data I don't see where you benefit. If the system receives data and does a lookup and a calculation, then you would benefit.

    Hope this helps. Let us know when corn gets toppy again please :)
     
    #116     Jan 16, 2011
  7. That is great help guys thank you both!.... Back to scrutinizing grains charts... hey what's that pattern there...?!
     
    #117     Jan 16, 2011
  8. radist

    radist

    Exactly what I wanted but the installation person said all three monitors should be the same.

    I'm sure you'll love that 30" Ultrasharp and worth waiting for it.

    Thanks.
     
    #118     Jan 16, 2011
  9. radist

    radist

    #119     Jan 16, 2011
  10. radist

    radist

    If you're only using one monitor, my understanding is that the graphics is already integrated into the Sandy Bridge i7 2600K -- so no card is needed at all.
     
    #120     Jan 16, 2011