Request advice almost blew up account

Discussion in 'Options' started by eaglefeather, Dec 17, 2018.

  1. Robert Morse

    Robert Morse Sponsor

    Why?Why not move on? I had a friend that rode a stock from 300 to 1. I asked why she did not sell for months and she said I don’t want to take a loss. I don’t understand that as except for taxes, she lost money the day she bought it.

    My suggestion is that you learn to take losses and move on. Find a better home for your money.
     
    #11     Dec 18, 2018
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  2. Best advice ever, and big fat kudos to you for recommending to reduce exposure rather than loading up on ever more complex positions in the name of "hedging" and what not. The best hedge against further losses is to eliminate the source of the loss and simply exit the position.

     
    #12     Dec 18, 2018
  3. JSOP

    JSOP

    Hedging is nothing complicated if done right. Of course to some trolls who knows nothing but just go all over the forum to spew garbage to pick fights with others, anything is too "complicated".
     
    #13     Dec 18, 2018
  4. You are an idiot. And you are a lucky first. So far I have not seen one intelligent value added by you, not in economics, news, options, programming nor anywhere else. You keep on adding shit content and can't even explain your thought process. My only ignore cause I really can't take your crap anymore.

     
    #14     Dec 18, 2018
  5. FSU

    FSU

    If you want to hold long term and reduce margin, I think your best bet is simply buy an in the money long term call. For example the Jan 2020 15 calls are trading about 6.60. So with the stock at 19.90, you are only paying about an extra 1.70 in premium over the stock price. This will limit your downside to 6.60 and reduce your margin.
     
    #15     Dec 18, 2018
  6. tommcginnis

    tommcginnis

    There are three types of hedges -- a duplicative hedge (e.g., SPX vis ES), a mirror hedge (SPX vis SH or SPDN), and the uncorrelated hedge (SPX vix cash or real estate or Lambos).

    You can find a steel ETF that will move closely with X. You can graph a couple of individual steel makers who move well with X. And at that point, you can work up whatever solution you wish, without endangering your original position in X. Depending on your choice, you can further impede, or you can cut, your margin burden (depending on the margin regime you face).

    "Bingo!" :)
     
    #16     Dec 18, 2018
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  7. Chewy

    Chewy

    I want to maintain a long position on this stock,

    This is the essence of your problem.
     
    #17     Dec 18, 2018
  8. I found a solution.
    What I needed was a long spread ATM with the following characteristics:
    Very little time decay.
    Very small capital requirement.
    Very little down side.
    I’ll post it later, it’s a box spread variation.
     
    #18     Dec 18, 2018
  9. Inverse unbalance call butterfly several months out.
     
    #19     Dec 18, 2018
  10. JSOP

    JSOP

    Never had a troll put me on "Ignore" before. This is exhilarating!! LOL Good riddance!!!
     
    #20     Dec 18, 2018