republicans oppose teaching of “critical thinking skills”

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Free Thinker, Jun 29, 2012.

  1. Ricter

    Ricter

    I wasn't arguing those ideas earlier, and trying to make my philosophical point was not an attempt to create an argument for those ideas, either.
     
    #141     Jul 2, 2012
  2. Yannis

    Yannis

    Very crude description, but used for beginners. More correctly, God is the ultimate source of knowing and of power.
     
    #142     Jul 2, 2012
  3. Yannis

    Yannis

    As I stated before, parts of the Bible is symbolic, parts is historical and other parts are just for teaching. You need to have appropriate training, deep faith and live a religious life to be able to tell what's meant by each segment, if anything.
     
    #143     Jul 2, 2012
  4. Brass

    Brass

    Two words you don't often see next to each other.

    MODERATOR: Yannis has escaped from the Jokes thread. Please do the necessary.
     
    #144     Jul 2, 2012
  5. If “faith” is a prerequisite in a belief in order to see the truth of the belief, being if there were evidence there would be no need for “faith” in any particular belief.
    All supernatural beliefs require “faith” in its truth, being there is no evidence proving any particular belief.
    So it must be the “faith” itself that dictates what is true.
    Therefore every one of the worlds religions are true, being they all rely on the “faith” of the believer to see its truth.
     
    #145     Jul 2, 2012
  6. This is sophistry and patently untrue. This is not what the bible states.

    I know that thou canst do every thing, and that no thought can be withholden from thee.
    (Job 42:2) KJV

    Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."
    --Matthew 19:26, NIV

    So now, this is in writing. What is it with this beginner stuff?:D
     
    #146     Jul 2, 2012
  7. Now, that is interesting, because the bible itself does not state any of these assertions. Just where do you get this from?
     
    #147     Jul 2, 2012
  8. Yannis

    Yannis

    This post is kind of hard to decipher, so let me give you a scientific example: you cannot see an electron or any elementary particle, let alone a photon that you use to see things with. Yet, scientists believe they are there. They use their own tools, paradigms, accelerators, various axioms, and previous (yet unprovable) theories to make sense of the stuff. Everybody accepts Einstein's theory of general relativity, yet no one has ever recorded a graviton, its basis. The speed of light being the ceiling for speed is only based on mathematics, not direct evidence... etc etc.

    Theologians have to use similar approaches, being that you cannot just use something to prove that this same something exists... you need to be able to stand outside of it, like Archimedes famously proclaimed: give me a place to stand (outside this planet) and I will move the Earth.

    So, you see where faith come in, it's a necessary tool to get your juices frlowing. But faith is supposed to be just the beginning... direct religious experience is needed later on to make things real for yourself.
     
    #148     Jul 2, 2012
  9. Also, Yannis, you stated that God does not hate anything, but I posted from his Book that he does.

    Is that literal, teaching, metaphorical? Just what is that?
     
    #149     Jul 2, 2012
  10. Yannis

    Yannis

    I agree with the Bible, but you and I may interpret these passage differently.
     
    #150     Jul 2, 2012