Republican Jewish Coalition Bars Ron Paul From Debate: ‘He’s misguided and extreme’

Discussion in 'Politics' started by achilles28, Dec 2, 2011.

  1. 377OHMS

    377OHMS

    You are essentially saying you would vote for Obama because that would be the end-result. Might as well just register as a democrat and vote for the community organizer.
     
    #71     Dec 3, 2011
  2. Nonsense, what he's saying is that votes should wake up and vote for the Paul , the only worthy candidate.
     
    #72     Dec 3, 2011
  3. rew

    rew

    God save us from the Harvard Law School professors. The fact that other Presidents have also violated the Constitution does not mean that it's acceptable for the current President to do so. The left (and the neocon right) has long opposed the plain meaning of the Constitution because it puts too many constraints on the federal government, and doesn't allow for many of the big government, statist programs that the left and neocons want. So law professors of a left wing persuasion have long argued for a so-called "living Constitution" in which they say that the Constitution says pretty much anything they want. It is an intellectually contemptible program.
     
    #73     Dec 3, 2011
  4. rew

    rew

    Ron Paul has time and time again been the only "No" vote on numerous bad bills. So if he were to initiate impeachment I think he realizes that he would be a lone voice, or one of very few, in favor of impeachment. There's not much point in starting an impeachment process that is certain to go nowhere. After all, the neocons don't want a precedent that limits a President's ability to start a war. And the Democrats will simply see it as an attack on a Democratic President.

    In practice Congress only tries to impeach a President if he lies about getting a blow job. I am proud to say that I am in contempt of Congress.
     
    #74     Dec 3, 2011
  5. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    I'm as horrified as anyone at the prospect of another four years of the Odumbo disaster. And while I cannot say I'm excited about any of the GOP candidates.
    ANY of them would be better than the wholly unqualified community organizer we have now.

    BUT I also have to ask myself, at what point ARE we going to start voting our way out of this two party cluster fuck? If not 2012...2016, 2020? When IS going to be a good time? I almost voted for Perot but backed down literally at the last moment because I didn't want to help put the democrap running at the time in office. In hind sight it WOULD have been a wasted vote of course, based on today's polls/environment a third party vote in 2012 will most likely also be the equivalent of handing Odumbshit the oval office again.

    Seems to me at some point though the more intelligent and informed voters are going to HAVE to lead the way by voting third party. I doubt the sheeple will ever do it in sufficient numbers on their own. We HAVE to get past both the point where it seems like a wasted vote and then the point where it IS no longer a wasted vote.
    If the smarter voters don't lead the way...who will?
     
    #75     Dec 3, 2011
  6. I am saying the republican party is in danger of handing the election to Obama if they alienate Paul's followers, which they are doing. I am not even a supporter of Paul, and I am upset. I admire him, yes, but don't support him for president. But it infuriates me that some shadowy organization highhandedly decides who has "acceptable" views and who doesn't.

    The problem is if you nominate a candidate through a rigged process, you destroy grass roots enthusiasm. Paul wouldn't even have to run as a third party candidate, but who could blame him if he did.

    Leave it to the republicans to screw up a sure thing.
     
    #76     Dec 3, 2011
  7. pspr

    pspr

    You have to wait until after the coming economic collapse. Then everyone will be pissed enough to abandon both parties. Until then we'll have to muddle through. Just not with Obama, Reid, Pelosi, et al.

    On the other hand, term limits and radical reform on lobbyists would go a long way to solving the problems in D.C.
     
    #77     Dec 3, 2011
  8. It's strange because the party will just not get behind Mittens. The cover of time now highlights this fact. There is a good chance they are going put Newt up there out of sheer attrition.

    Rick Perry is terrible and would surely lead us into WW3 as would Bachman. A Jesus freak at the helm of the most military on earth is a terrible idea.

    The pubs won't let Paul near the nomination, and yes, it is a conspiracy, and that is shameful.

    Cain....he will drop out on Monday.

    That pretty much leaves Newt and Mittens.....Newt will carve Mittens up at the debate podium, and he is a worthy opponent of Obama, but he has so much baggage that the media will very quickly decimate him.

    The dems are licking their chops. Mittens was the only one who could beat Obama in the general election and they have killed him, so it will be Obama 2012, confirmed.
     
    #78     Dec 3, 2011
  9. rew

    rew

    I think Paul could defeat Obama, something the Republicans absolutely refuse to acknowledge. Paul's greatest impediment to reaching the Presidency is the large number of war mongers in his own party. Romney is an empty shell, and I think more people are realizing that. Love him or hate him, people know where Paul stands, and know that he means what he says.

    And yes Cain has just announced that he's out of the race, due to his own bimbo explosion. So now the anybody-but-Ron-Paul segment of the Republican party is switching to the inside beltway slime ball, Newt Gingrich. This is the best thing that could have happened for Obama.
     
    #79     Dec 3, 2011


  10. The smarter voters are leading the way Lukie..... We gave you a surplus but you managed to mess it up. :mad: .
     
    #80     Dec 4, 2011