Republican Jewish Coalition Bars Ron Paul From Debate: ‘He’s misguided and extreme’

Discussion in 'Politics' started by achilles28, Dec 2, 2011.

  1. Yet again you prove you're full of shit.

    Your post that I responded to didn't have a question. I asked YOU one and you couldn't answer it so you asked me one, and now you're evading it again.

    For the THIRD TIME, explain why there's NO mention of gold and silver other than in Section 10 which limits the states and why, if the Founders were so intent on forbidding Congress, they didn't put it in Section 9 which limits Congress as they did for example with the prohibition against granting titles of nobility which is in BOTH.

    Section. 9.

    No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States

    Section. 10.

    No State shall... grant any Title of Nobility.
     
    #161     Dec 7, 2011
  2. Oh please... doubling down on your ignorance only makes you look more foolish. Even if Iran had a few nukes we could wipe them off the face of the earth before they could respond. Which would not even be necessary if we had good enough intelligence. Anyone with nukes is not the former Soviet Union. And a few nukes does not a nuclear triad make. You're not simply opposed to war, you're a kook.
     
    #162     Dec 7, 2011
  3. rew

    rew

    The question was, where does the Constitution have a clause that says congress can pass laws overriding Article 1, section 10?

    Show it to me.

    Forbidding states to grant titles of nobility does not imply that the federal government can not issue titles of nobility, so the Constitution spells it out that neither entity can issue titles of nobility.

    Forbidding states to accept anything but gold or silver coin as tender in payment of debts does not force the federal government to only accept gold or silver coin as tender in payment of debts. BUT it does forbid the federal government from forcing <i>states</i> to accept anything but gold or silver coin as tender in payment of debts. So the federal government can issue paper money but the states can't use it -- which makes the paper money pretty useless.
     
    #163     Dec 7, 2011
  4. rew

    rew

    There's something about gold that gets the gold skeptics saying stuff like this.

    I figure the gold haters are just jealous of people like me who bought gold under $400. The message from the fiat currency mainstream has been something like this:

    1999: Gold is a barbaric relic that doesn't pay interest and only goes down. Don't buy it.

    2000: Gold is a barbaric relic that doesn't pay interest and only goes down. Don't buy it.

    2001: Gold is a barbaric relic that doesn't pay interest and only goes down. Don't buy it.

    2002: Gold is a barbaric relic that doesn't pay interest and only goes down. Don't buy it.

    2003: Gold is a barbaric relic that doesn't pay interest and only goes down. Don't buy it.

    2004: Gold is a barbaric relic that doesn't pay interest and is now overpriced. Don't buy it.

    2005: Gold is a barbaric relic that doesn't pay interest and is now overpriced. Don't buy it.

    2006: Gold is a barbaric relic that doesn't pay interest and is in a bubble. Don't buy it.

    2007: Gold is a barbaric relic that doesn't pay interest and is in a bubble. Don't buy it.

    2008: Gold is a barbaric relic that doesn't pay interest and has CRASHED! See, we told you! The bubble is over. Don't buy it.

    2009: Gold is a barbaric relic that doesn't pay interest and is in a bubble. Don't buy it.

    2010: Gold is a barbaric relic that doesn't pay interest and is in a bubble. Don't buy it.

    Of course over this time gold went from under $300 to about $1700 today.
     
    #164     Dec 7, 2011
  5. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Not a very good argument for paper currency backed only by hollow promises.
     
    #165     Dec 7, 2011
  6. Once again I've come to realize that the big anti-Obama-ites that I happened to agree with turn out to be frothing Neo-Cons...
     
    #166     Dec 7, 2011
  7. Ricter

    Ricter

    I'm not a gold hater, I just see it mainly as a collectable. It has no more inherent value than paper, though. The joke I make is based on the fact that, going back on the gold standard, we'd either use, as a symbol of real wealth, pieces of gold for currency, or we'd use some kind of PAPER, representing gold, two levels of symbolism, and it would be PRINTED. Saying that it could all be "electronic" is coming from the kind of guy that put electric flush toilets in one of our buildings--the power goes out and nobody gets to shit.
     
    #167     Dec 7, 2011
  8. Wrong again. You're trying to distort this just as you've tried to distort my points. The operative word is make as in designate, NOT accept.

    The states aren't forbidden to accept anything but gold or silver coin as tender in payment of debts, they're forbidden to "make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts."

    Forbidding states to designate does not imply that the federal government can't, as with titles of nobility as you've admitted.

    Now admit you don't know what you're talking about.

     
    #168     Dec 7, 2011
  9. In my study of history, I was surprised at how often the very hard left and the very hard right agree with each other. Both want maximum polarization.

    Why?

    Divide and conquer for the leaders. Whom, by the way, have no loyalty to any ideology besides wealth.
     
    #169     Dec 7, 2011
  10. ================
    Achill;
    some spell it '' cool'':cool:

    Well peace on eath is the first choice;
    but for those who declared war on US, Emmanuel is a good name.

    A volunteer military is not a new idea.Like David said ''Thy servant slew both the lion & bear & that uncircumcised Philistine will be like one of them''1st Samuel 17.

    :cool:
     
    #170     Dec 7, 2011