Repeal Of 60/40 Tax Treatment!!!

Discussion in 'Trading' started by nqtrader, May 20, 2003.

  1. How is that possible? You only pay taxes on profits. Regardless of the tax scheme, a change in tax rates doesn't make a loss a gain, or visa versa.
     
    #51     May 20, 2003
  2. Would this be possible in a scenario where one frequently makes substantial gains and gives just about all of it back? In this case, trading a large enough number of contracts that even though it's a small # of pts per contract, it still comes out to a decent annual profit?

    Say, make 20 pts a day per contract, and give back 18 points a day?

    I could imagine the 60/40 rule possibly having major effect in this scenario (but I'm very new at this, so this is only a guess)
     
    #52     May 20, 2003
  3. Biog

    Biog

    No, it is very simple. The 60/40 rule only applies to an annual profit. Do away with the 60-40 tax treatment and the tax liability will increase only on the traders earning an annual profit. Traders incurring an annual net loss are not adversely affected by the possible tax change. They have other problems...:(
     
    #53     May 20, 2003
  4. Biog

    Biog

    Emails have been sent to CA senators and my representative...:mad:
     
    #54     May 20, 2003
  5. Agree. It's quite a surprise. I e-mailed the Editors of Futures magazine. They might have to adjust production schedules a little if they weren't already in the know on this and were caught unawares. Still, I've got confidence in the abilities of industry spokespeople to state the case for traders, they are the amplification of our voices.

    Bruce
     
    #55     May 20, 2003
  6. While some of you have eloquently expressed your outrage at the proposed changes, none have really explained why keeping 60/40 tax treatment will be adventageous to the economy or the country. Simply writing your representative to say you're mad won't work, especially since futures traders are so few.
     
    #56     May 20, 2003
  7. TGregg

    TGregg

    LOL - do you really believe that politicians have the best interests of the country at heart?
     
    #57     May 20, 2003
  8. No, I don't, but how else are you going to appeal to them? Their own self-interest doesn't matter because futures traders are too few to affect them. Whoever or whatever prompted them to change the law is more influential than a few hundred letters from a bunch of distraught day traders.
     
    #58     May 20, 2003
  9. Doesn't the nearly exponential volume increase in the eminis suggest there are more than just a few stragglers involved in this?

    Would this apply to professional status futures traders also?
     
    #59     May 20, 2003
  10. I'm just talking out of my ass here, but I'm guessing short-term futures day traders make up an impressive absolute number, but a small relative number in terms of political importance.
     
    #60     May 20, 2003