Reoptimization and RevMark System

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by RonHud, Jun 25, 2003.

  1. RonHud


    To other trading systems developers on the Omega News List, EliteTrader, and TSWorld:

    I have been evaluating John Bonin's Revmark and ATM systems ( The systems are ES daytrading counter-trend systems, which is something I need more of in my ES day trading systems portfolio.

    I have run 2 year performance reports in TS7 and posted both of them on my web site ( Here are the links to the reports, which I think are very interesting:!web/atm0623.mht!web/revmark.mht

    As you can see from the equity curves, these two systems are optimized for the last year (PF for the last year is in the 3 area on both systems). The vendor is one of those who believes, as he puts it, that "backtesting an ES day trading system for more than 4-5 months is futile."

    Based on the handsome profit factor of his systems during the last year, I am intrigued by this claim that "re-optimization is good." I really haven't heard or read about this before. I would like to solicit advise from others who have opinions about this. For example, I know that Josh Murakami ( subscribes to a similar philosophy.

    Just when I thought I was beginning to understand that the longest, smoothest equity curve was the secret to systems trading, now I'm not so sure. I would appreciate anything others can share about this. The consistent profits of John Bonin's systems over the last year are quite attractive.

    I would especially be interested in books, web sites, or products related to this subject. The most valuable feedback would be real-world experience from developers who are familiar with the pros and cons of reoptimization, and tips and tricks for doing it right. Also, is there a difference between "reoptimization" and "curve-fitting." How do we know where to draw the line? Is it just one of those judgement calls that comes from experience and wisdom?

    Ron Hudson MCSD, MCDBA
    Tradestation 7 EasyLanguage Specialist
    Huntington Beach, CA
  2. Re-optimization every time period has been mentioned before by Chuck LeBeau, few years back...

    Same conclusion... optimization is good if it under a sound concept...

    Having a sound concept is the hard part...

    *I also think it was mentioned in Omega-list a few months back... It was about how frequent the re-optimization should be or something close to that...*

    Anyways, good trading...