RenTec's Jim Simons on "From Quant to Riches"

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by makloda, Jun 14, 2007.

  1. BARLI

    BARLI

    he's 2-nd richest

     
    #11     Jun 26, 2007
  2. BARLI

    BARLI

    question: if they have a meeting weekly, does it mean that entire staff knows about the systems? I bet computer programist know EVERYTHING.. now, doesn't it mean that they can simply take those models and start their own funds?
     
    #12     Jun 26, 2007
  3. Div_Arb

    Div_Arb

    #13     Jun 26, 2007
  4. RedDuke

    RedDuke

    I do not think developers see full picture, otherwise what you mentioned would have happened. More likely they only see code pieces, and then 1 or 2 most trusted, probably partners put them together. The sever security must be nuts in this place.
     
    #14     Jun 26, 2007
  5. eraci

    eraci

    Words have it that only the very top knows the big picture. Don't be fooled. Town-hall meetings can't be very revealing.
     
    #15     Jun 26, 2007
  6. BARLI

    BARLI

    #16     Jun 26, 2007
  7. BARLI

    BARLI

    I went to Forbes, they still show that Buffet #2

    http://www.forbes.com/2007/03/07/bi..._07billionaires_cz_lk_af_0308billie_land.html


    and they said that Helu made 19 billions last year, thats 19 times more that rentec quants and that mexican-lebanese dude doesnt seem to be a quant at all ;-)
     
    #17     Jun 26, 2007
  8. The 'town-hall meetings' are, AFAIK, assemblages to hear presentations by invited guest speakers, rather than company-wide discussions of strategy.
     
    #18     Jun 27, 2007
  9. loik

    loik

    Warren Buffett
     
    #19     Oct 6, 2007
  10. Actually...
    That's not the way it would work.

    There are 2 main things that keep operations "secret":

    (1) Iron-clad non-disclosure agreements.
    These are VERY enforceable in court...
    And just the threats and fear factor is effective.

    (2) Very few people can build a firm to compete with these guys...
    Not some coder... not some quant with a PhD...
    So few... maybe 1 in 10,000 people...
    That it's not much to worry about.

    What these guys are doing is not such a Big Secret anyway...
    There are only so many ways to practice arbitrage...
    Most things they are coding is just classic methodology...
    The edge comes from execution, execution, execution.
     
    #20     Oct 6, 2007