Remove the Pattern Day Trading Rulle - Vote

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Joab, Mar 7, 2008.

  1. NazSpaz

    NazSpaz

    Be real people, is $25K really that much money? And if it is, there are many firms that will let you trade for much less so long as you educate yourself on what you are doing first, is that really a big hurdle? I think the rule is fine.
     
    #11     Mar 7, 2008
  2. Pita

    Pita

    most people trading start with big dreams and little money and some who would have enough (more than 25k) are maybe not willed to put it on the table as long they cannot prove to themselves being ripe and profitable. Now those with less than 25k might put much more time and effort into the whole thing than somebody who switches from the screen to the golf court. The little trader might find something whats nicely working for a certain time period and cannot milk it because of this rule. Going around the rule by trading futures is the road to a dead end for most. The rule is a pure restriction to making ones own free decision about his/her money - period.
     
    #12     Mar 7, 2008
  3. Agreed 25K is not a great account sum...

    But - The rule itself is not aligned with the principles of our free enterprise system....

    We need none of those rules and the removal of this one would be a justified by its anti-competitive nature...


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    #13     Mar 7, 2008
  4. The PDT rule has given traders the ability to trade 4-1 vs 2-1 margin. Traders have the ability to park half their cash in interest bearing accounts while trading the same dollar amounts in their trading accounts since its implementation.

    I vote for the PDT rule.
     
    #14     Mar 7, 2008
  5. Most daytraders quit their daytime jobs to lose money, doing so they give a bad reputation to the stock market.

    I agree that in a completely free society, the rule would have to be abolished.
    On the other side all our society is based on the stock market, and investor confidence is golden.
     
    #15     Mar 7, 2008
  6. Its a good rule.

    But the limit hasnt kept up with inflation.

    Should be 35K now.
     
    #16     Mar 7, 2008
  7. I agree the 4-1 is better a than the 2-1... and the cash / interest / trading account advantages...

    But i don't follow that our government should be allowed to push an anti-free enterprise rule...

    It should be the brokerage houses account sizes that are the proper way to set minimum accounts... for trading...
     
    #17     Mar 7, 2008
  8. gaj

    gaj

    i can't imagine you'd get more people to support the repeal of the PDT now than had sent emails, letters, phone calls, etc. to the SEC a few years ago.

    it's still too soon, and the main reason for its implementation (fear of customers suing brokerage houses, their brokers, exchanges, etc.) is still around.

    do i think it should be gone? of course (keep the 4:1 margin >25k, that's fine). but will it be? doubtful. it was never about the individual investor, but about the lawsuits.
     
    #18     Mar 7, 2008
  9. Joab

    Joab

    Excellent analogy !!!

    My question is WHAT would have to be done to get this rule removed ???
     
    #19     Mar 8, 2008
  10. ESSTUD

    ESSTUD

    They're trying to save the 5k guys from losing it all. Trading with 5k is like giving a bottle of rum to a recovering drunk. Your chances of winning are near zero over time
     
    #20     Mar 8, 2008