Remind me why the PDT Rule exists.

Discussion in 'Trading' started by ark93, Jun 13, 2019.

  1. Nothing was or is easier or easy, otherwise you would have made more than 25k. Instead you went back into the grinder and hated your life. So stop kidding yourself how easy something was

     
    #11     Jun 13, 2019
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  2. ETJ

    ETJ

    All requirements are intended to protect the firm from an "unsecured" debit - not intended to solely protect the customer. Intended to protect the firm against an unsecured.
     
    #12     Jun 13, 2019
  3. Nonsense. If that was true then those below certain account balances should simple not be allowed to trade on margin. Then a stock can go to zero or double overnight without impacting the broker whatsoever. Those are all antiquated rules that stifle peoples' freedom.

     
    #13     Jun 13, 2019
  4. d08

    d08

    "Making a killing" and not having 25k. The math just does not add up.
     
    #14     Jun 13, 2019
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  5. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    Not everyone lives in the USA and making a killing for a poor person could be $2000 per month which is what I was making on a 6K account, which is spent, not saved.

    I wasn't aware about PDT till 2weeks before it came in, nightmare!!
     
    #15     Jun 13, 2019
  6. d08

    d08

    I've never lived in the US but $25k isn't some absurdly large amount of money anywhere unless you are really in the 3rd world.
     
    #16     Jun 13, 2019
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  7. gaussian

    gaussian

    You were making 33% per month? Why spend any of it. If you kept it going you’d be able to pay off the national debt of the US and have some left over for a private island and airport. If your strategy was that good your country’s central bank would’ve loaned you billions.

    This is what I came to this thread for. These hucksters. What a joke.
     
    #17     Jun 13, 2019
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  8. tommcginnis

    tommcginnis

    Not at all. You need to have done some 'miracle runs' yourself -- you end up being NOT a nice person -- a bad Dad, poor-ass hygiene, you lose friends (through unfriendly and obnoxious and *thoroughly* self-absorbed behavior). Oh, and forget about your Sweetie. It is not fun. It is not recommended. And you WILL eventually blow up. But if it's Pay The Bills or not, you do what you need to do, for as long as you can. The best you can hope for is to learn learn learn. "Saving up?" No -- for some, *that* is a joke.

    And so, to get back to the PDT Rule, you either quit with your $24,999 til you can restake $25k + blow-up, or you move to futures, and lose it with 100|1 leverage. :confused:
     
    #18     Jun 13, 2019
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  9. expiated

    expiated

    This is the first explanation I've read that makes some amount of sense to me. Why does the U.S. appear to regulate markets more than any other country (other than perhaps India) on the face of earth? Covering one's behind due to the fact the so many Americans just seem to be itching to sue someone at the drop of a hat, not to mention the prevailing victim mentality of today's spoiled Yanks who want to blame anyone and everyone but themselves for their personal situations, and I can see why the government finds it necessary to pass silly regulations to protect even sillier citizens from themselves.
     
    #19     Jun 13, 2019
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  10. d08

    d08

    It entirely depends on your personality. Sure, the ego starts showing more as you start to equate your importance with your performance. But for most, they understand that they are still nothing -- there are billionaires out there for whom your "miracle run" isn't even enough to pay for a vacation.
     
    #20     Jun 13, 2019