Remember this pathetic option seller who lost $150 million for shorting natural gas and crude naked?

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by JSOP, Aug 13, 2020.

  1. bone

    bone

    I am not an attorney. But the Commodity Exchange Act has a fairly narrow window of fiduciary obligations for FCM's. The Agents of the FCM of course are liable for any representations they make to clients. But most of the CEA and CFTC legislation involves the segregation of customer funds when it comes to FCM's. The FCM customer documents talk about how big market moves might not allow the customer to get out of a position. TBH, in terms of "suitability" and risk most of the fiduciary onus is on the CTA and the Associated Persons in the investment fund. The FCM's responsibility for babysitting customer's risk in terms of "suitability" is really minimal.

     
    #31     Aug 20, 2020
  2. JSOP

    JSOP

    ok but they should still be liable for using IRA funds on margin for the investment; if that could be proven at least the clients' loss on margin and the interest on them can be cancelled. I feel so sorry for the clients.
     
    #32     Aug 20, 2020
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  3. bone

    bone

    Yes, if anyone at FC Stone had knowledge that customers were using IRA funds for futures trading then that would be a huge issue for them.

     
    #33     Aug 20, 2020
  4. JSOP

    JSOP

    Well FC Stone is the custodian of their clients' assets and the clients' funds are directly deposited with them as they are the FCM; Cordier is just the advisor so I don't know how much they can feign unawareness of it.
     
    #34     Aug 20, 2020
  5. bone

    bone

    You've got it backwards. I passed the Series 3 exam. Who did the customers sign over power of attorney to make trades on their behalf? Not FC Stone, clearly. There wouldn't even be a lawsuit if that were the case.

     
    #35     Aug 20, 2020
  6. maxinger

    maxinger

    yesterday NG moved massively by 12%.
     
    #36     Sep 17, 2020
  7. Despicable

     
    #37     Sep 17, 2020