Remember all those migrants Sweden "welcomed with open arms"?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Scataphagos, Sep 12, 2024.

  1. InvBox

    InvBox

    Until nations recognize their responsibility in these matters, others may try to exploit our systems economically through loopholes because they lack the means for open confrontation. We live under the illusion that everyone wants to live like us, but the truth is many harbor resentment because we have disrupted their countries.
     
    #11     Sep 19, 2024
  2. d08

    d08

    Pick up a history book, you clearly know nothing. The normality has changed. It was not some "horrible crime" committed by the standards of that time. You cannot apply 2024 standards to a 1800s world. What is your obsession with kneeling? You could build a list of thousands of groups who need to kneel by your logic.
    And Germany has apologised for its crimes, both real and imagined and paid dearly. Russia on the other hand has done absolutely nothing, in fact Stalin and Lenin are heroes regarding the typical Russian view of the world. There have been no apologies on a national level, far from it. Even stolen symbolical items from countries have not been returned.
    Funny how you talk about Americans and Vietnamese, when most Vietnamese in the south consider the Vietcong the true criminals and side with Americans.
    What does sending African-Americans back to Africa have to do with modern Europe? We are talking about African migration to Europe.
     
    #12     Sep 19, 2024
  3. InvBox

    InvBox

    I understand your point, but honestly, I don't see the point in arguing about this. The question was why some migrants see this as reparations and a responsibility of European civilization. I simply answered that. Unfortunately, we have this illusion that we are now "on the side of good." But that's far from reality. I think that sooner or later, acknowledging the truth and taking responsibility might help white Europeans realize their role. Until that understanding comes, there will always be conflict, because these people are fighting for survival, while we are often just fighting for more comfort. It’s clear which motivation is stronger. Hopefully, this doesn’t lead to civil war in Europe.
     
    #13     Sep 23, 2024
  4. d08

    d08

    I'm European, my ancestors owned no slaves or had nothing to do with it. More likely some of my ancestors were slaves in the more distant past. What "responsibility" do I have? You just classified all white Europeans based on looks and genetics and apparently see no problem with it. Fun fact: a very large portion if not the majority of slave traders were Jewish. How does that fit your narrative?
     
    #14     Sep 23, 2024
  5. InvBox

    InvBox

    I'll repeat: your logic is that of a typical white European who doesn't even understand the essence of the claims against him. You can keep saying "I’m just a coffee seller," but that doesn't change the core issue. There is the Western world, and there is the world that has suffered various problems caused by the West. The rest of the world is against white Europeans simply because of who we are.

    Our tactics seem to have been devised by schoolchildren. We won’t kneel before Africans, but we will kneel before African Americans or Afro-Germans, because it’s convenient. They are our citizens, and some citizens kneel before others. But those we really should be kneeling before—we ignore them, catch them at the borders, deport them, bomb them from airplanes, freeze their assets, and so on.

    As a result, the entire world is now against white Europeans. Everyone! And our opponents will fight us with every means available to them. As for the Jewish nationality, after what they did in Gaza, they’ve joined the elite club of white European genocidal history. Let’s welcome the newest member of this club.
     
    #15     Sep 23, 2024
  6. d08

    d08

    You're a good insight into why Europe will fail. Europeans shouldn't kneel before anyone, all debts have been paid long ago. Most 3rd world people get equal treatment in Europe, same rights as Europeans for the most part. In the developing world, a white westerner is just used for milking money out of, a walking ATM. I suggest you live in one of the countries you talk about.
     
    #16     Sep 23, 2024
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The United States and other countries should adopt similar rules for allowing immigrants to obtain citizenship.

    Migrants will have to prove they respect Western values, demonstrate 'honest living' and pass a test on Swedish society and values under country's tough new rules to earn citizenship
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...lay-football-dont-accept-not-country-you.html

    Sweden has unveiled tough new requirements for citizenship as part of tighter immigration rules aimed at integrating migrants and upholding the country's values.

    The government said on Tuesday it wanted to toughen the rules for obtaining Swedish nationality, with a probe recommending 'honest living' as a prerequisite.

    It also recommended extending the required duration of time spent in the country prior to obtaining citizenship - increasing to eight years from the current five.

    Those seeking citizenship would also have to pass a test on Swedish society and values, and do a language exam, according to the government-ordered probe.

    'Citizenship must be earned, not be handed out unconditionally,' Migration Minister Johan Forssell said in a post on Instagram.

    Forssell told a press conference that citizenship also helped tie people of disparate backgrounds together under 'a common Swedish identity'.

    He said it was 'crucial' to 'always be very clear about the values that must apply in Sweden'.

    'Family is important but it does not stand above the law. There is equality between the sexes. You can marry whoever you want.

    'Girls and boys have the right to swim and play football. If you don't accept that, Sweden is not the country for you,' the minister said.

    Following a large influx of asylum seekers to Sweden during the 2015 migrant wave, successive left- and right-wing governments have tightened immigration and asylum rules.

    Sweden stunned the world by taking in nearly 163,000 asylum seekers during the 2015 migrant crisis - the highest number per capita of any EU country.

    Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson's centre-right minority government, which is backed in parliament by the anti-immigration Sweden Democrats, has introduced ever harsher curbs since coming to power in 2022.

    Reifying the importance of a 'common' identity, Forssell explained: 'This is particularly important at a time when Sweden has welcomed hundreds of thousands of people from many parts of the world in recent years.'

    A probe ordered in 2023 also recommended tightening up the requirement for 'honest living'.

    In concrete terms, this would mean it would be harder for a person who has committed a misdemeanour or a crime, or who has unpaid debts, to obtain Swedish nationality, said Kirsi Laakso Utvik, who led the probe.

    Human rights organisation Civil Rights Defenders was critical of the proposal.

    'Research shows that tougher requirements for citizenship do not increase the incentives for integration, but rather contribute to the exclusion of a growing group of people who find themselves in the country for a long time without the basic rights of citizenship,' the organisation's legal director John Stauffer told AFP.

    The probe's conclusions will now be referred to various authorities and concerned parties for review, before the government drafts a bill.

    The probe recommended that the new law come into effect on June 1, 2026.

    Sweden once considered itself a haven for the war-weary and persecuted but has over the years struggled to integrate many of its newcomers.

    Recent measures introduced to reduce immigration included granting of only temporary residence permits to asylum seekers, tightening family reunification criteria and raising income requirements for non-EU citizens seeking work visas.

    The number of migrants granted asylum in Sweden dropped to the lowest level in 40 years in 2024, according to the country's government - the result of a decade-long crackdown on immigration.

    Just 6,250 asylum-related residence permits were granted in the Scandinavian country last year, according to Forssell, who cited fresh statistics from the Migration Agency.

    That figure does not include Ukrainians, who have been granted temporary protection throughout the European Union.

    The number of people who applied for asylum in Sweden in 2024 was 9,645, the lowest since 1996 and down by 42 percent since 2022.

    The huge influx of migrants in 2015 onwards made it impossible to effectively integrate all of the new arrivals, Mr Forssell has now said, with insufficient housing, schools and work opportunities.

    The EU has made significant progress in managing the flow of irregular migrants with a sharp crackdown on traffickers, the block's border agency reported yesterday.

    The latest data from the Frontex agency were welcomed by Italy's far-right prime minister, Giorgia Meloni, and comes as anti-immigration parties have been performing strongly in elections around Europe.

    The Warsaw-based agency said last year's preliminary data revealed a 38-percent drop in land and sea crossings from the previous year.

    It said in a statement the numbers were at 'the lowest level since 2021, when migration was still affected by the COVID pandemic'.

    Frontex said the decrease in undocumented asylum seekers was mainly driven by a plunge in arrivals through routes in the Central Mediterranean - largely via Libya - and Western Balkans regions.

    'Intensified EU and partner cooperation against smuggling networks has significantly reduced crossings at Europe's external borders,' Frontex said.

    Meloni called it 'a result of Italy's action, just as the overall reduction in irregular entries into the European Union, by other routes as well (...) is the result of the hard work that our government has undertaken in recent years'.

    She expressed her 'pride' in what she hailed as 'good news of the day'.

    Overall, in 2024 the agency saw over 239,000 irregular entries into the EU.

    By comparison, the UK saw a total of 29,061 attempts to enter the UK irregularly between January and September 2024, according to government figures.

    This includes small boat arrivals, inadequately documented air arrivals, recorded detections in the UK and recorded detections at UK ports.

    This was down from 2023's tally of 36,699, aggregating the same selected methods of entry.

    This was also down from 2022's figure of 54,672.

    It was also significantly lower than 2021's total of 36,813.

    (Article has many pictures and charts.)
     
    #17     Jan 15, 2025
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Sweden’s ‘completely and utterly broken society’ serves warning to Britain as investigation lifts lid on crime wave
    https://www.gbnews.com/news/migrant-crisis-sweden-society-broken-crime-wave-investigation

    Daily Mail investigations reporter Sue Reid painted a stark picture of Sweden's deteriorating situation during her recent visit to the Nordic nation.

    "It's a society that is completely and utterly broken", Reid told GB News, noting there was "very little hope" for ordinary citizens.

    She attributed the crisis to Sweden's migration policies, particularly the country's decision to welcome 163,000 people in 2015.

    Reid shared the story of Claudia, a Chilean immigrant, whose son's 14-year-old girlfriend was allegedly assaulted by a Middle Eastern migrant, illustrating the personal toll of what she described as the state's loss of control.

    Sweden's security crisis deepened this week with the fatal shooting of controversial Koran-burner Salwan Momika in his Stockholm apartment.

    The 38-year-old Iraqi refugee was gunned down on Wednesday, just hours before he was due to face trial for inciting ethnic hatred.

    In a stark admission following the killing, Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson told media it was "obvious that we have no control over the wave of violence".

    Vice Prime Minister Ebba Busch condemned the murder as "a threat to our free democracy".

    The shooting marks a dramatic escalation in Sweden's mounting security concerns, with Momika having previously sparked international outrage for his public desecration of the Koran in 2023.

    The unprecedented wave of violence has seen 31 bombings rock Sweden in January alone, with one elderly man losing his leg in a blast.

    The situation has become so commonplace that estate agents now list "no bombings" as a selling point when advertising properties in unfamiliar neighbourhoods.

    Last year, a 20-year-old recently graduated teacher fell victim to one such explosion.

    "People get tired of it," Swedish academic Goran Adamson told the Express. "You cannot take it in because if you did, you would go crazy."He warned that "the situation is much worse than people seem to realise."

    The attacks have become so frequent that some explosions barely make headlines in Swedish media.

    The situation has become so commonplace that estate agents now list "no bombings" as a selling point when advertising properties in unfamiliar neighbourhoods.

    Last year, a 20-year-old recently graduated teacher fell victim to one such explosion.

    "People get tired of it," Swedish academic Goran Adamson told the Express. "You cannot take it in because if you did, you would go crazy."He warned that "the situation is much worse than people seem to realise."

    The attacks have become so frequent that some explosions barely make headlines in Swedish media.

    Sweden's Security Service is now assessing the potential impact of the shooting "on Swedish security."

    Swedish authorities are struggling to manage an overwhelmed prison system as their crackdown on gang violence yields results.

    In 2023, Swedish courts handed down prison sentences totalling nearly 200,000 months, marking a 25 per cent increase from the previous year and double the figure from 2014.

    The country's jails are now at capacity, with the Prison and Probation Service projecting a need for 27,000 beds by 2033, up from the current 11,000.

    Justice Minister Gunnar Strommer announced that Sweden is exploring new solutions, including talks with other countries about renting prison space abroad.

    A government-appointed commission confirmed there were no legal obstacles to sending inmates to foreign prisons, pending parliamentary approval.

    Sweden now ranks among Europe's deadliest nations for gun violence, with only Albania and Montenegro recording higher per capita rates.

    The southern city of Malmo has been classified as more dangerous than Baghdad, according to recent assessments.

    The brazen nature of violence was highlighted by criminologist Ardavan Khoshnood, who cited a 2023 incident where a 15-year-old calmly shot a gang leader in a Malmo shopping centre.

    "Before when [someone shot] a gun they tended to run away," Khoshnood said. "But [the Emporia killer] didn't try to do anything. It just put the gun back in his pants, took out his phone, ordered a cab and waited."

    The teen received just four and a half years in a young offenders institution, the maximum term possible for his age group.

    A senior Stockholm police officer has strongly rejected claims of "no-go zones" in Sweden, despite reports suggesting 61 such areas exist where law enforcement struggles to operate.

    Erik Akkerland, Chief Superintendent of Botkyra Municipality, told CBS News: "We don't have a no-go zone in Stockholm, in my opinion we don't have a no-go zone in Sweden."

    However, recent footage shared on social media appears to show crowds confronting police vehicles in what was described as one such area, with officers reportedly retreating from the scene.

    Swedish police maintain that crime statistics are improving, claiming to have prevented more than 100 serious offences this year, leading to fewer shootings and deaths.
     
    #18     Feb 4, 2025
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #19     Feb 8, 2025

  10. wait wasn't the mass murderer committed by a white Swedish gunman?

    You post a lot a shit but did you bother reading it?
     
    #20     Feb 9, 2025