Religion is a hypothesis.

I was replying to your statement..."There's no record of such a person in the Roman records, and the Romans kept better records than the Jews...", which is incorrect.

Also, you seem to be suggesting that since no documents have yet been found that were written during the same timeframe that Jesus walked the earth as a good reason to not believe He even existed at all. Is that a very good reason to discredit what has been written about Him?

The New Testament manuscripts go back closer in time to the originals than for any other ancient documents. Compare that with these examples:

Plato wrote his Tetralogies in 427-347 BC yet the earliest manuscripts we have date to 900 AD - a 1200 year gap. Aristotle wrote between 384-322 BC but the earliest manuscripts we have are from 1100 AD – a 1400 year gap. Suetonius wrote his De Vita Caeasarun = 75 AD - 160 AD, earliest manuscripts found = 950 AD - an 800 year gap. Etc, etc, etc... There are lots more, but you see where I'm coming from.
The New Testament, which was written between 50 – 100AD, and the earliest manuscripts we have are from 125AD – a gap of only 25 years.
It's just something to think about. RC

 

You are correct, there are Roman records. Just none contemporaneous with Jesus.

The difference between your examples and Jesus is that Jesus wrote nothing himself. Maybe the oldest surviving copies of Plato's writings are much after Plato's time, but the fact that nothing at all was written about Jesus until after his time makes it possible that Jesus is just a fictional character made up to please Jewish subjects under Roman tyranny. Like Robin Hood and King Arthur, there may be much to the legend of Jesus that is just make-believe.

 

your speaking nonsense now. nothing can be beyond space and time not even god.

 

Says who? You?

LOL!!!

Where exactly, and at what particular time does an idea not exist?

Where exactly, and at what particular time does an idea exist?

...now is the time, and this is the space for longshot to look like a fool...again.

 

To may a statement like that when you have no clue as to the make up of Space or Time says it all.

 

space/time is everything that exists. nothing exists outside of it. that's a fact. to speak about beings outside space/time is gibberish.

 

Silly boy we are not contemplating Bigfoot.

 

both are non-existent imaginary inside of space/time as well as out

to speak of omnipotence anyway is just plain silly. how could YOU know omnipotence?

 

The flaw:

1. space/time is everything that exists. nothing exists outside of it.

2. that's a fact.

3. to speak about beings outside space/time is gibberish.

Now the rub:

4. Space and time could cease to exist.

5. Consequently space and time are not eternal.

6. Yet, space and time must have come from nothing because according to longshot there is nothing outside of space andtime.

7. Space and time came from nothing.

8. Therefore longshot believes space and time came from nothing.

9. Sure, thing, and rabbits are pulled out of hat from nothing...

LOL!!!

longshot has the mental and conceptual ideas of a 2X4...

 

i feel silly to even discuss this nonsense..

so, your argument is space/time could not arise from nothing therefore you believe in 'god' that preceded space/time but came from..what? if space/time could not arise from nothing how could 'god'?