Regarding the Existence or Absence of God

Discussion in 'Politics' started by rs7, Aug 29, 2002.

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  1. relax guys, all will be answered! :)
    just gimme a moment...i'm busy getting ready for the EliteTrader Fanatasy football draft...
    after that i'll post my opening argument, and at the end of the whole thing hopefully we'll all come away with a better understanding of the world we live in and the opposing points of view..
     
    #721     Sep 11, 2002
  2. ElCubano

    ElCubano

    we lost one Big_m......sammybea is a no show....
     
    #722     Sep 11, 2002
  3. Where is this fantasy league? Is it free? I'm already in 3 leagues, so I'm just curious. I don't need to dominate any more leagues.
     
    #723     Sep 11, 2002
  4. "Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear." - Thomas Jefferson
     
    #724     Sep 11, 2002

  5. "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."
     
    #725     Sep 11, 2002
  6. Lots of problems with your post.

     
    #726     Sep 11, 2002


  7. A misconception held by many theists is that nonbelievers reject religion because they do not understand it. Typically, nonbelievers understand the dominate religion of their culture quite well, often better than many of the believers. For example, here in the USA, where most religionists are Christians, many nontheists are former Christians who have examined the Christian religion carefully and rejected it as mythical. It is precisely because the former Christian was open-minded enough to question and honestly seek answers that he or she ended up rejecting Christianity
     
    #727     Sep 11, 2002
  8. Another common question for nontheists is "Why would anyone choose disbelief?". A rational person does not choose belief or disbelief; he or she chooses to apply reason to the question of the existence of gods, and if disbelief is the result, then so be it. There are, however, many benefits to the rational thinking that leads one to disbelief. For example, many nontheists are also secular humanists and have a much more highly developed moral system than theism usually provides, since secular humanists apply reason and empathy to decide what is moral, while theists usually attempt to apply the inconsistent and often irrational standards which come from their "holy" book. As another example of the benefits of reason over religion, consider the following quote from Robert Ingersoll:

    "When I became convinced that the Universe is natural - that all the ghosts and gods are myths, there entered into my brain, into my soul, into every drop of my blood, the sense, the feeling, of the joy of freedom. The walls of my prison crumbled and fell, the dungeon was flooded with light and all the bolts, and bars, and manacles became dust."



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    BEHOLD THE TRUTH!!! I AM FREEEEE!! FREEEE! DO YOU HEAR ME??? FREEEE!!:D :D :D :D :D
     
    #728     Sep 11, 2002
  9. you religious bums are the ones in shackles!!


    ME? I am FREEEEE!! HAHA!!:D
     
    #729     Sep 11, 2002


  10. "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."


    --carl sagan


    YOU HAVE NONE!! AHHHH GO PUNT....HAHA!
     
    #730     Sep 11, 2002
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