Regarding the Existence or Absence of God

murray t turtle · Oct 2, 2002

Nitro;

I AM working more on your good question earlier-''Where does Jesus Christ live???????????????????????????????????????????????''

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''For the word of God is quick,and powerful and sharper than any two edged sword''- Hebrews 4;12 a ;

Jesus Christ has the SAME name[lives] as the ''word of God'',like I wrote earlier. Will try to write more later.

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''Leverage is a two edged sword''

Cash [Bright] quote to Leiber and Weissman LLC

murray t turtle · Oct 2, 2002

That's a complex question, Nitro , Lord Jesus Christ lives in the following ;
[but not limited to the following]

[1] Jesus Christ lives thru his Word.[Hebrews 4;12]

[2]He lives at the right hand of God the father[Hebrews 10;10-12]

[3]He inhabits the praises of Israel[Psalms 22;2-3]

[4]He also lives in every real[not fake] Hebrew Christain or Christian. Colossians 1;27 Meaning you recieved the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ who died for our sins,according to the scriptures.[ 1 Corinthiqans 15;1-4
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[5] Jesus Christ [word or Holy Bible] includes logic, but bigger than logic like medical miracles.

[6,7]Speaking of logic there is more of Jesus Christ in a Holy Bible believing synagog or church than an individual Hebrew believer.
Some can't find Jesus like a crook can't find a policeman.

thunderbolt · Oct 2, 2002

Well Hello Friends! I'm glad to see this thread is thriving. Jesus is still alive! He still heals the blind, deaf, dumb and people with all diseases--including AIDS! His power lives on even unto the end of the world! It's so exciting to see the spirit of God moving all over the world, even into Africa where those people have been in bondage from witchcraft. God can break those chains if you allow him to come into your heart. We are in the final hour of the world as the signs are all around. Prepare yourselves, Jesus will come as a thief in the night.

axeman · Oct 2, 2002

Well, you got one thing right.
He is a THEIF, a theif of rationality

peace

axeman

Originally posted by thunderbolt
Well Hello Friends! I'm glad to see this thread is thriving. Jesus is still alive! He still heals the blind, deaf, dumb and people with all diseases--including AIDS! His power lives on even unto the end of the world! It's so exciting to see the spirit of God moving all over the world, even into Africa where those people have been in bondage from witchcraft. God can break those chains if you allow him to come into your heart. We are in the final hour of the world as the signs are all around. Prepare yourselves, Jesus will come as a thief in the night.
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rs7 · Oct 2, 2002

Thunderbolt can not be for real. I think we have all been taken in by his rantings. It all has to be a very long running joke. No one could possibly take what he says seriously. Not even Thunderbolt himself. He must be just toying with us. Only thing that makes sense at all.

At this point I have to admit to being had. Thunderbolt can only possibly be a jester. Or certifiably insane. Either way, not to be taken seriously.

Peace,
Rs7

thunderbolt · Oct 2, 2002

Originally posted by rs7
Thunderbolt can not be for real. I think we have all been taken in by his rantings. It all has to be a very long running joke. No one could possibly take what he says seriously. Not even Thunderbolt himself. He must be just toying with us. Only thing that makes sense at all.

At this point I have to admit to being had. Thunderbolt can only possibly be a jester. Or certifiably insane. Either way, not to be taken seriously.

Peace,
Rs7
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These words I bring you are VERY serious indeed. You all think I'm insane because you haven't diligently sought the lord and therefore you don't know of him and his ways. This is the final hour and time is almost up.

aphexcoil · Oct 3, 2002

The 'Many-Worlds' Interpretation of Quantum Physics

First, a disclaimer for those new to the subject: Niels Bohr, the founder of modern quantum theory said, "Anyone who is not shocked by quantum theory has not understood it". And he didn't know about the Many-Worlds Interpretation (MWI). The quantum mechanics (QM) presented here is quite mainstream, even though it still seems crazy to physicists, who have no choice but to accept it. The major assumption I have made is to adopt Everett's (1957) MWI, which is just one of half a dozen competing interpretations of QM. According to various polls, MWI and the original 1927 'Copenhagen Interpretation' now have a similar share of the votes among physicists, but many of the 'big names' (Hawking, Feynman, Deutsch, Weinberg) are said to (Price, 1995) have subscribed to the MWI.

The weirdness of quantum physics can be seen in the famous parallel-slit experiment. This shows that individual photons seem to split into two particles which can nevertheless interfere with each other as if they were waves. The 'Copenhagen Interpretation' of the phenomena and the equations which describe them, agreed at the 1927 Solvay conference, essentially says that the 'wave packet' somehow associated with a particle 'collapses' when it is observed - this necessitates a relationship between the observer's consciousness and the particle. The MWI, on the other hand, holds that the equations used to predict quantum mechanical events continue to hold after observation - it is just that all things happen simultaneously, but due to 'decoherence' we do not actually see, for example, a radioactive source both decay and not decay. For an explanation of how this implies parallel universes, see Vaidman (1996).

There is one way of proving that the MWI is true and the Copenhagen and other interpretations are wrong. Unfortunately, the experimenter can only prove it to himself, and never persuade anyone else of its validity.
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Read the rest at ...

http://www.higgo.com/quantum/qti.htm

(Most of today's leading Quantum researchers and scientists firmly believe the MWI theory is correct)

aphexcoil · Oct 3, 2002

What is real? What is the universe made of? How does it work? Physics has always been an attempt to understand these questions. In the twentieth century, physics has developed two very powerful ways of looking at the world. The first was General Relativity, developed by Albert Einstein, which describes how gravity works. This theory is very successful at describing the actions of stars, galaxies, and objects on the largest scales. The other theory is called Quantum Mechanics and it is used to describe objects on microscopic scales - such as atoms, electrons, protons, etc.
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http://roxanne.roxanne.org/epr/

aphexcoil · Oct 3, 2002

Arguing from quantum theory plus a bit of arithmetic, Bell was able to show that any model of reality whatsoever--whether ordinary or contextual--must be non-local. Bell's theorem has since been proved entirely in terms of quantum facts, no reference to quantum theory is necessary. In its most up-to-date version Bell's theorem reads: The quantum facts plus a bit of arithmetic require that reality be non-local. In a local reality, influences cannot travel faster than light. Bell's theorem says that in any reality of this sort, information does not get around fast enough to explain the quantum facts: reality must be non-local.

"Bell's theorem proves that any model of reality, whether ordinary or contextual, must be connected by influences which do not respect the optical speed limit. If Bell's theorem is valid, we live in a superluminal reality. Bell's discovery of the necessary non-locality of deep reality is the most important achievement in reality research since the invention of quantum theory."
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Mr. Bell's theories prove both mathematically and through quantum experiments that reality is indeed non-local. This has far-reaching implications for the philosophy of science, religion and life itself -- including the source of consciousness as it applies to quantum states within the universe and mind.

goldenarm · Oct 3, 2002

At this rate, I think Aphie will surpass Don Bright's number of posts in about 6 weeks.