I think what a lot of you fail to understand is that evolution is just another creation process. Nothing gets created with the wave of the wand and "POOF" -- there it is! No, things get assembled by other forces outside of the assembled system. Your watch is a system that's purpose is to keep time. Every organized system in the universe exists for some purpose. A watchmaker creates the watch using his intelligence, dexterity and available parts. The watch never went "poof" and came from thin-air. So, the bit about evolution being the end-all is just bullshit. Evolution merely shows us that organisms, which are systems, are also created through a process of external events and not from some "POOF" -- there it is phenomena. What no atheist has yet answered for me is how evolution can exist. Where did the rules for evolution come from? Why are systems getting more advanced when the law of thermodynamics says that they should be breaking down? It is almost as if all the atheists here are Godel machines that have just been fed some type of question they can't answer because it goes beyond logic. So, the only thing they can resort to is the obvious retort to any lost debate -- personal bashing. I should know because I am ET's whipping child.
A worthy position for sure Hey, you know what Andy Warhol said?? Now is your time, my fine feathered orator. Bask in the glory. It is fleeting. Consider yourself like Boy George. Or Commander Cody and the Lost Planet Airmen (ask Magna). rock on aphie! (Gandalf was actually my Longhair Weimaraner...Tolkien plagiarized me as have so many. And I had a Shitzu named Gordon Gekko. Ever hear a dog bark and make a sound like "LOL, LOL"? That was that little fur ball).
Babak, Do you know what the record is for the most posts in a thread? The most pages? Most total words? Total views? (I could see where three posts by darkhorse could be the equivelent in word count of 11,231 by Gordo, so there would have to be seperate categories). Oh, and another category....most cut and pasted political op-ed posts (My money on Traderfut2000)
This is exactly why I don't get involved in arguments like this. I just posted a poll that says almost half the scientists in the US don't believe in Darwinian Evolution. Now all of a sudden, only the "real" scientists know what they're doing. Argghhh! Even better, I remember reading two different polls, one was a Gallup Poll I believe, the other was a newspaper. In both polls, less than 10% of the public believed in strictly Darwinian evolution, whereas of the remainder, about 40% believed in creationism, 40% believed in some kind of creationism/evolutionism combination (i.e. the goldenarm theory), and the remaining 10% were 'I don't know.' What does this prove? Nothing, except that the government or should I say we are funding this brainwashing that only about 10% of the people believe anyway. That's what gets me steamed. I'd much rather see kids exposed to everything and the arguments for and against each particular theory and let each person make their own decisions. Trotting this stuff out as scientific fact? Give me a break. Is it any wonder you see people like Gordon Gekko graduating with this "evolution is God" mentality? Adolph Hitler said, "If you tell a lie long enough, people will start to believe it." After reading that statement, Axeman probably thinks "exactly what I'm thinking about creationists" while darkhorse thinks "exactly what I'm thinking about evolutionists." That's the other reason why I don't get involved. What's the use? All these arguments do is reinforce preconceived biases. But if it's any credit to you, if I relied solely on the information presented on this board, I'd be an evolutionist all the way.
rs7, lol Maybe we should start an Emmy style award show online? Lets pitch the idea to Baron. I can just imagine the acceptance speeches: "You do love me!! [sob] You really, really do love me! [sniff]"
If a thread diverts to a different topic than originally intended and the members take the ball and run with it, it is part of the moderators job to change the name of the thread to reflect the new subject. As a result the name of this thread has been changed. My apologies if it is not to your taste or preferance. I chose the words to reflect the discussion taking place.
HAHAHAHAHA IT TOOK LONG ENUF BARNEY FIFE. WHAT THREE WEEKS AND 200 +M PAGES LATER AND NOW YOU FEEL THE OVERWHELMING NEED TO CHANGE THREAD HEADERS??? LOL!!