Refiner Insiders Buy Most Stock Since 2000 on Oil Bet

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by S2007S, Jun 23, 2008.

  1. These stocks are sucking wind badly. Like someone said about GE and some big caps, insider buying isn't always an accurate tell.
     
    #21     Jul 3, 2008
  2. A 10,300 share buy by Valero Director Engelhardt at $49.07 on May 2nd doesn't look so hot. But then again, it probably isn't cramping his style much because he bought 560,175 shares of BTU back on Feb. 5th around $52.00

    :D
     
    #22     Jul 3, 2008
  3. Getting my head handed in long VLO :)

    Will this SOB ever retrace? Probably after I bail.
     
    #23     Jul 3, 2008
  4. Illum

    Illum

    I wouldnt touch these until rate hike, so not for a long time. Certainly not till next year.

    Oil may indeed brake down, but I wouldn't put my money on it. Better trades out there until rate hike.
     
    #24     Jul 3, 2008
  5. I'm licking my wounds on those FTO Jan 09 calls.

    There is a chance that demand destruction is taking place above 140 here, and the inventory data will lag for a while, and when it does show up on a sustained basis, these stocks will rally, even without any fed tightening (because oil may break).

    Some wiser people than I are saying that's why the producers are not seeing their stock rise even though the underlying asset has risen - investors or potential investors see demand destruction as a real risk.

    You have to admit that it is a real possibility.
     
    #25     Jul 3, 2008
  6. Buylosellhi,
    I feel your pain, but I think your logic was sound. FTO VLO and TSO all will rebound, but the hardest part is to guess the timing. You were wise to buy long calls. I think by Jan 09, you still have a decent shot to make money.

    Good luck,

    freewilly


     
    #26     Jul 3, 2008