Hello John9999, I believe this is a challenging question to ask or know because to me it depends on the type of trading a trader is doing. A trader may makes 20 trades per day and $5000 day on average. I believing thinking in terms of % return on investment as a trader is sort of not needed. I rather think in $$$. For example, I want to make between $1000 to $3000 per month trading. I am not concerned with ROI or what some other trader ROI, I don't meet my $$ goals per month, then no eating or bills paid or finical goals met. The goal of trading is to make alot of money every month with respect to your trading planning or scheme or strategy.